May 29, 2008
I Wonder What
IÂ’m on the train now, late at night, as I return home from another business meeting. I say another and yet itÂ’s one of the first IÂ’ve been to as far back as I can remember. It seems like yesterday that I was charging up from the train station to the office, full of fire and action points and things to do and places to go and people to talk to and problems to solve.
Today it was just me. Just me and just my laptop. Just trying to figure out where I belonged in the drinking bird world.
I dressed to be serious. Business-like black sheath dress. Pearls – on the neck, wrist and ears. Hair was blown dry and not scrunched up wet for a change, heels 2 inches high. It got me bent over the back of the couch this morning for a quickie, perhaps because Angus hasn’t seen me in anything other than glasses and pajamas for ages.
I felt like someone to be reckoned with.
Maybe I was.
The meeting went off without a hitch. In the window of the meeting room I would flash in reflection. I am strong. I am a woman. I am tough. I am in charge. It looked so real I bought into it
After the meeting I meet up with my old team for drinks in our usual place. I have been in this bar so many times that I know where everything lies, where everything goes. I know what a tab looks like, when we flash it to add another drink to it. I know what their toilets with the Molton & Brown toiletries smell like. I know what smiles the bartenders have and I know how the bar heaves with people like me – business people who have no purpose other than to talk and drink and unwind a moment before life carries us away again.
Angus puts the babies to bed.
It is the first time that I am not there to put them to bed.
This team – my team – knows of my children just as I know of theirs. We ask about each others’ families. We laugh and order drinks. We flirt and tease and take the piss out of each other. We have seen each other in our weakest and our strongest moments.
Outside rain falls. People come running into the bar, shaking rain off of their heads and briefcases and umbrellas. We have another drink and some finger food. My legs cross and uncross, unused to the weight of real shoes on the real feet. I do not think of the work I have to do when I arrive home, nor of the action points I need to address tomorrow.
I sigh and sip my nameless faceless white wine. One of my boys – even though they’re not on my team anymore and we’ve all scattered to the wind I will always, always think of them as my boys – leans over to me and smiles and tells me he’s missed me. I smile back and tell him I missed him, too. We are not hitting on each other. We are just being honest.
We talk and laugh and make fun and I say my goodbyes early. I have a home to get to, one with sleeping babies and a man whoÂ’s been working and cabling and a dog whoÂ’s as sick of the rain as we are. The boys tease me about being a lightweight. They offer to buy another round. ItÂ’s not the drinks, and I think they know that. I just go home, thatÂ’s what I do.
As I walk out of the bar, with hugs and high fives for the men I have given my all to and with, with the boys who consider me one of their own, with the boys that I spend time with and never feel alone, I turn to look at the laughing lot of outcasts. They see me and wave. I wave back, and smile, and miss them. I hope to see them soon.
My heels punctuate the London rain-soaked night streets and I race for the train station, hoping to catch the right train at the right time. I have missed my babiesÂ’ first bedtime and it was ok. I have had my first business meeting, my first real meeting in ages, and it was ok. I will ride a train home and write up this blog post and I will be ok.
I wonder what you must think of my life. I write about taking a train into London, where I walk over a bridge to an office and become a businesswoman, full of vim and vigor. I wonder what you must think. I wonder if I seem impossibly unreal. I wonder if I seem egotistical and false. I wonder if I can let you know that a day came and went and I was reminded of how human I am, and how much I hold tight to memories I hold dear.
-H.
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Although I don't have babies at home, I can relate to the 'going out to work feeling'. I work from home so much, that I am almost scared to go out to meetings now. I just got an invite to a meeting in Crawley, in July, on a Friday and I nearly had a breakdown. I was screaming 300 miles on a FRIDAY round the house last night.
I am already planning what to wear, wonder if the killer heels will be too much?
I think I feel trapped by being at home yet I don't want to go anywhere else.ever.
Posted by: Bee Cee at May 29, 2008 09:55 PM (hKnts)
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I am glad the first away from bedtime went okay. Firsts are always tough.
Posted by: Jen at May 29, 2008 09:55 PM (FYm8s)
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You sound just exactly like yourself. It's good to hear it, too.
Posted by: BeachGirl at May 29, 2008 09:58 PM (U+oUO)
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Actually you DO seem "impossibly unreal"in a fabulous way. I'm in awe and jealous of the life you lead. It's like reading a novel about some amazing cosmopolitan woman living an exciting life that someone like me could never lead. I'm not doubting your "real-ness." I'm saying that for some of us, reading about your life sounds like a complete happy fantasy world. (That is, compared to our boring mundane white-bread lives... or aybe it's just me!) Glad you're feeling good and you sound very contented right now. Peace!
Posted by: irshlas at May 29, 2008 10:33 PM (AJksJ)
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I love to hear about you learning to balance the life that was with the life that now is. You may not always get it perfect, but you will always kick ass doing your best. It's all any of us can hope for.
Posted by: sophie at May 29, 2008 11:15 PM (ZPzQL)
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Having discovered your blogs in early February and having read my way through the past years by early May ,I can tell you that you are doing what you have always done, trying to making a safe place for you and yours. The only difference between now and the early years is that Angus is now beside you to share in that safe place that you have built together and you have the children to share it with.
We are many different people during our lifetimes, but each is still a part of us; the mom, the drinking bird engineer, the sexy woman in black dress and pearls, the Helen in flannel boxers and glasses. Not to enjoy and embrace each part is to weaken and deny the whole woman.
We like all of you, or we would not click on each day to see how you are and what you have to say.
Posted by: Melissia at May 30, 2008 12:57 AM (mJWbf)
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I see a person getting back into the swing of a life that carried her up to the point that she became a mother. I see a person trying to prove to herself that she can be a wonderful mommy, yet leave the babies in responsible hands and go deal with the working world in her usual tough, no-nonsense style. I see a person successfully proving it to herself, that she STILL has the stuff to make it in the professional world, particularly in a male-dominated profession.
And I see a person who is able to do two things that mean so much to her, yet keep both worlds separated. One old and familiar, the other new and sometimes scary.
In short, I think I see a real person. The real Helen that's made it this far with more balls than a lot of people, including many men (myself included).
Posted by: diamond dave at May 30, 2008 01:03 AM (EKSJf)
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Your life sounds like a rich and full one. A life of a person fulfilling all areas of her life.
But did you really have the time and energy to get "bent over the couch?" (ha ha)
Congratulations on taking this first big step forward.
Posted by: Waiting Amy at May 30, 2008 01:38 AM (ecQ9f)
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You are as real as the reflection I see in the mirror everyday.
You don't have to tell me-I know.
Posted by: Teresa at May 30, 2008 01:38 AM (4P612)
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I think it sounds great!
Posted by: Tina at May 30, 2008 03:17 AM (IeXqp)
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I think I adore you, as always.
I'd call it a good day. :-)
Posted by: caltechgirl at May 30, 2008 03:44 AM (IfXtw)
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You are as real as I am, facing each day as it comes and wondering how my life will change even more over the next year or so. I am so proud of you. You rock.
Posted by: Lisa at May 30, 2008 04:56 AM (EcHBm)
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Oh! And the "it got me bent over the couch for a quickie" sounds more like you than ever.
Posted by: Lisa at May 30, 2008 05:00 AM (EcHBm)
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“I wonder what you think of my life.” That’s why we blog isn’t it? And before blogging there were journals and diaries and best friends or pets or dark rooms to pray in. We wonder ourselves about our own lives. We write to sort out the feelings and facts and people and places. We wonder who we are and why we are and what we do and why we do it. We look at our people and things and wonder. We come to the end of thoughts and ask others to wonder with us. We hold it up and shake it out and parade it around and look from every angle and wait for comments and thoughts from over there. We collect those thoughts and comments and sort them out, think them through and wonder some more. By the time the wondering is through and the gathering and polling and sorting out is over we are more of what we used to be and brand new at some things we never knew we had in us. We are a wonderful, wonderfilled creation and I wonder about those who don’t wonder.
Posted by: gemma at May 30, 2008 12:15 PM (xrUPc)
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Cheering you on from the sideline as you get back to the flow of kickin' ass in the corporate world.
I'm sure you both deserved the quicky ;-)
Posted by: Angela at May 30, 2008 12:20 PM (DGWM7)
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Remember your post about different lives? You began another one a few months ago when those two screaming bundles of poopy joy arrived. If memory serves, this would be life #8.
Becoming a parent chnges your life in so many ways, it's not possible to count them all. Most of the changes are unexpected becuase until you're a parent you never think of them. Contrary to a prior assertion, being a parent has
everything to do with
anything you do. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Posted by: ~Easy at May 30, 2008 12:32 PM (IVGWz)
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Just had to take a moment to say this was a wonderful read. I find it wonderful to hear that you are finding your way and discovering that you can do an be everything that you desire. You'll find a way to do all the things you'd like. Being a great mother, partner, friend, employee, co-worker, not mutually exclusive.
Christopher
Posted by: Mr.Thomas at May 30, 2008 01:44 PM (WaUZb)
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What an incredible woman you give us in your posts. You are the working mother... in every way. Glad it all went well.
Posted by: sue at May 30, 2008 04:21 PM (CPA3R)
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What an amazing post. That was a pleasure to read. I will be back to read more--
Posted by: kbreints at May 30, 2008 06:40 PM (KVeJ7)
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Incredible post. Very real and surreal at once. You described an event that many stay at homes envy and would love to get back to. And the thrill of the 'bent over the couch' comment made many of us swoon. Way to grab it all, girl! And, god bless your husband for allowing you too!
Posted by: Melissa at May 30, 2008 07:52 PM (+Wg/4)
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Is the questions whether you're unreal or do you mean "unrealistic"? You are one of the first generation of women who "want to have it all", I'm not ( at he age of 55 ).
When our baby was born, finally, I was 36, I changed my whole life and stayed at home for a while (about 2 years), while my husband was working his ass of in our company, where we had been working together before.
I missed contact to "working life" already after about a month, but continued to do my very best as a mom, visited "crawl groups", baby swimming, showing the world to our little bandit, until I looked for a new job after two years and ended up as a secretary in an institute ( a nice job, but far under my universal skills ). That's the price I paid for our little familiy luck, working eight hours a day, o.k. life is expensive, but not in a position with high responsibilities.
There are young women who make it,though, for example my colleage next door, the first woman professor in our institution. I hear her calling every day, talking to her two kids, who come home and eat milk and smacks and do their homework alone after school (in Germany there are still schools which are out at 2 p.m.). I see her pale face and hollow eyes (she's 40), and I know what she ist going through, especially when the kids (11 and 14)are sick or are crying or shouting at the other end of the line...It is certainly differen, if the kids go to kindergarten the whole day and later to whole-day schools. It depends how long the ride back home is and how much time of life there really is left in the evening of the working weeks.
It will always be a dilemma, either being there for the kids or fulfill expectations and aims in your job. If I could chose again, I would try to work part time in an office nearby and the rest of the day at home at my PC.
As for the feeling of being "reckoned", it was probably real. Your husband saw the sexy business women and probably wanted to make sure that she's all his and not an object of desire for any our man in the busiess world outside!
Why don't you dress up at home sometimes? And for business maybe reduce to a black suit and flat shoes?
I wish you and your husband the very best.
Paula
Posted by: Paula at May 31, 2008 10:11 AM (vqgD1)
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Is the questions whether you're unreal or do you mean "unrealistic"? You are one of the first generation of women who "want to have it all", I'm not ( at he age of 55 ).
When our baby was born, finally, I was 36, I changed my whole life and stayed at home for a while (about 2 years), while my husband was working his ass of in our company, where we had been working together before.
I missed contact to "working life" already after about a month, but continued to do my very best as a mom, visited "crawl groups", baby swimming, showing the world to our little bandit, until I looked for a new job after two years and ended up as a secretary in an institute ( a nice job, but far under my universal skills ). That's the price I paid for our little familiy luck, working eight hours a day, o.k. life is expensive, but not in a position with high responsibilities.
There are young women who make it,though, for example my colleage next door, the first woman professor in our institution. I hear her calling every day, talking to her two kids, who come home and eat milk and smacks and do their homework alone after school (in Germany there are still schools which are out at 2 p.m.). I see her pale face and hollow eyes (she's 40), and I know what she ist going through, especially when the kids (11 and 14)are sick or are crying or shouting at the other end of the line...It is certainly differen, if the kids go to kindergarten the whole day and later to whole-day schools. It depends how long the ride back home is and how much time of life there really is left in the evening of the working weeks.
It will always be a dilemma, either being there for the kids or fulfill expectations and aims in your job. If I could chose again, I would try to work part time in an office nearby and the rest of the day at home at my PC.
As for the feeling of being "reckoned", it was probably real. Your husband saw the sexy business women and probably wanted to make sure that she's all his and not an object of desire for any our man in the busiess world outside!
Why don't you dress up at home sometimes? And for business maybe reduce to a black suit and flat shoes?
I wish you and your husband the very best.
Paula
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corrections of mistakes:
..."for any other man in the business world outside!"
And please delete one of my doubled comments.
Thanks, Paula
Posted by: Paula at May 31, 2008 10:22 AM (vqgD1)
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after this great posting I feel sure sales of black sheath dresses and pearls will sky rocket.
Keep up your good work in both your careers. You will continue to succeed.
Remember if at first you do not succeed; suck until you do succeed.
Posted by: Charles at May 31, 2008 12:28 PM (maQJG)
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My wife has stayed home with the children since they were born. She's a social person and found other ways to not go bonkers besides working, which used to be her usual outlet: a local Mom's Club, some new friends in the neighborhood, becoming part of our local homeowners association, etc.. I think once both of our children are in school full time that my wife will likely go back to work, if for no other reason than she craves adult human interaction. Some days, our alone time after the children are in bed is the only such time she has.
If you ask her, though, she will tell you that staying home with the children is its own reward. While she's away with her college classmates this weekend, I'm doing my Mister Mom duty and, nervewracking though it can be at times, I love it. I simply adore my time with the children. Sometimes, work gets in the way and I'm not home to tuck them in or read them stories and it's still okay because I know that when I finally get home, they'll come running at me and throw themselves into my arms, saying how much they've missed me.
I don't know what the purpose of this comment is supposed to be; I'm rambling. But your post brought lots of thought bubbling up through my brain and I thought that I'd type them up.
You know what your post made me think? That you're a mom, with all that that entails. I can picture your step quickening as you near your front door as you anticpate your hug/kiss with Angus. And then I see you checking in on Nick and Nora, giving them both soft little kisses on their foreheads as you give yourself comfort at the touch.
Posted by: physics geek at June 01, 2008 03:37 AM (SXqoC)
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You seem like a woman I have admired for years, whose courage has inspired me and to help me make the tough choices to become a better person. You seem like the woman who never saw herself as pretty, yet would take the most stunning and raw photographs. You seem like the creative type who risks painting the walls a bright orange and collecting little treasures from your past and travels. You seem like the type who travels and captures breath-taking photographs that leave me longing for the touch of the view. You seem like all of these things because you, Helen, are all of these things.
You are amazing.
Posted by: Lauren at June 01, 2008 07:51 AM (iUfJz)
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We are the sum of many parts. I am not just an engineer, not just a wife, not just a Mom, not just a daughter... and on and on. I am many things. I put the shoes on that are required for that job. I compartmentalize.
We have many faces. To me, its the best part of being a woman, the faces we are capable of wearing and the things we are capable of accomplishing.
Posted by: Bou at June 02, 2008 02:01 AM (mPTKU)
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You sound pretty real to me. I missed my first bedtime last thursday. It felt wrong, but I had a good evening nonetheless, and since pob gets a feed at 1030 I got my cuddle when I got home. But I didn't get a quickie!
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May 28, 2008
Book Review - The Fertilty Journal
Since I love books and I love talking about books, I recently joined
Mother Talk Book Club. Our first book came out and was sent to me, and it landed on my doorstep with a thud. I had no idea what the book would be, so imagine my surprise when I opened the package to see
The Fertility Journal: A Day-to-Day Guide to Getting Pregnant by Kim Hahn and the editors of Conceive Magazine.
Umm...ok.
Sponsored by Conceive Magazine and published by Chronicle Books, I had never in my life seen anything like this. It's a diary where women who want to get pregnant list their cycles as they go, including diet, exercise, habits, weight, caffeine intake, basal body temp, you name it.
I nearly laughed.
No wait. I did laugh.
First off, how do you review a diary? Isn't that impossible? Isn't it like saying Behold! A notebook! Forsooth, for what dost thou say to me? (Yeah, I don't know why I'm thinking in Shakespearean either. Let's go with it.) Secondly, I've never, ever been on the "let's have a curry, have sex, and see what happens in nine months" side of the fence. I'm an IVF veteran, one of those bitter screechy laughing kind of women who mock films where a woman sneezes and gets pregnant, who rips apart articles that describe IVF the wrong way.
My inner cynic wanted to take this book and laugh. It wanted to blog about the ridiculousness of it all. Then my inner cynic dialled it down, realized it was out of its comfort zone, and got out a glass of wine and took a look.
The diary, it's not bad.
I'll be honest, I simply flipped through the book, basically ignoring the "how to get pregnant and write it down" phase. I do see that it probably is an excellent resource for women who approach things in an orderly and organized fashion - I want to get pregnant and I'm going to document kind of way. But I can't really speak to that. What I can speak to and did explore was the second half of the book, where the diary gets into fertility treatments. There's a short explanatory intro for the book in which the author describes some basics of fertility treatment. I think it gives a very good layman's summary of what a basic IVF cycle is and does.
You then have 6 weeks of diary entries, in which you can record questions, medication dosages, doctor appointments, thoughts that you are having, and there are even two pages to write out the hopes and frustrations that you may be having. The book even has a section to help a woman in the 2ww try to write out her anxieties.
I thought back to my first IVF cycle years ago, and I think I could've benefited from a book like this. Clear descriptions, a way of keeping track of everything, places for me to doodle or write "I hate that nurse!" in all caps if I chose. I can see that the diary does actually have a place for women who are new to the fertility game.
At the same time, I have to take exception with the author a bit - I felt she didn't address the emotional impact as well as she should've. I also have a real problem with the fact that she only has room for 2 fertility treatment cycles in the book (I think the average woman will take more than 2 cycles) and even more damning, at the end of fertility treatment cycle 1 she writes "And know that someday you'll be a wonderful mother, too."
I have a problem with that. I think that's sugar-coating what is a difficult and trying process. A large number of women don't succeed. Many women in that group go on to have a life without children. I think that statement is one more stab in the heart to those who go on to ultimately not have children.
Apart from that, though, I do think that this is a good resource for someone who is entering fertility treatment for the first time. I think the authors could even benefit from expanding on this and making a journal just for that market - women can use something to turn to that they trust during treatment times, something not filled with images of babies and women rubbing their stomachs. You could argue that if someone bought the book trying to have babies the "old-fashioned way" went on to not succeed, and had to go to section 2 of the book, might feel pretty bad that she had to face part 1, the part where she had all those hopes and dreams, each time she had to flip to the back.
-H.
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That line should have said "get thee a blog".
By the time you get past the second cycle, you're ready to fling the book somewhere unsavoury anyway.
Posted by: Lut C. at May 28, 2008 11:08 AM (J3pcy)
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Think I'm heading towards IVF .... I think your blog is more useful, honest and helpful than this sounds!! I can use my own diary and capitalise who I HATE!!
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Posted by: Moira at May 28, 2008 02:15 PM (Z6Qfm)
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Quite honestly, the author may not have realized this. I know that I have to be *extremely* careful when talking about fertility to those who are having difficulties, because I'm the type of person who can say something I think is comforting and turns out to be a serious case of Foot In Mouth. (IOW, I pretty much have to practice saying totally generic support messages lest I say something very wrong.)
So even though she went through IVF, the fact that she caught pretty early on in the process and didn't have to experience long-term frustration might mean that she doesn't realize how it can be.
Posted by: B. Durbin at May 28, 2008 04:41 PM (tie24)
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I was capable of making my own lists of timings and drug doses etc and haven't bought baby books to fill in so I don't reckon I would be the ideal demographic for this book. I am a reader in bookshops though so would have flicked through it I'm sure if I was coming at this now. What I would have loved to have known about before I was on cycle 3 though was IF blogs and some help from a book like this in finding them would have been useful. Far more so than the annoyingly baby dust filled message boards which were easier to locate - although to be fair I do still keep up with my old clinic board on one of the big UK sites.
Posted by: Betty M at May 28, 2008 06:50 PM (+Rjj7)
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A "stab in the heart." I could not possibly agree more. A tasteless and unfeeling comment.
Posted by: Charles at May 28, 2008 09:25 PM (maQJG)
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I'm reviewing this tomorrow and I'm with you - it was good in certain ways but there were things that just weren't thought out for real infertility adventures.
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May 26, 2008
Dishwashers
"We can hook up the dishwasher next weekend," Angus says.
"Thank God," I nearly sob. "I can't face washing by hand anymore."
"That happy to see the dishwasher again, huh?"
"At the first rinse cycle I think I'm going to orgasm."
"Uh..."
"There'll be so much shaking you won't know if it's me or the dishwasher in ecstasy."
"Well..."
"I'm going to make love sweet love on a hot econowash cycle."
Silence.
Then - "Is that it?" he asks me.
"What can I say, dishwasher porn is a little hard to think of."
-H.
PS-we awoke this morning to gale force winds, blinding rain, and the sound of babies screaming. Why were they screaming, the average sane person might ask? Probably because it was raining on them. The builders are currently scurrying around trying to secure the tarps that had blown off over our house. I'm so over being roofless.
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Dishwasher porn... too funny!
Good luck with your roof.
Posted by: Hannah at May 26, 2008 08:07 AM (hjBAP)
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It was raining on them?! Although it sounds awful, that makes me laugh. Good thing babies don't melt.
Posted by: Veronica at May 26, 2008 10:33 AM (sLfKS)
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It's raining like hell here too. But wasn't supposed to.
Posted by: ~Easy at May 26, 2008 12:04 PM (XD24A)
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I've heard about doing the nasty on top of a clothes washer on spin cycle. But never a dishwasher. The closest image I can get is the scene from Fatal Attraction where Michael Douglas has Glenn Close right there in the kitchen sink, on top of all the dirty dishes.
Good sex just doesn't get any dirtier.
And finally I get to post a real blog link in the URL!
Posted by: diamond dave at May 26, 2008 12:17 PM (EKSJf)
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When we did our addition we awoke one night to rain pouring through the tarps into the piano. I ran over my toe twice moving it. (never move a piano in bare feet.) The piano was fine, the toe was broken. The contractor was called at 2:00 a.m. and made to come out and fix the problem.
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at May 26, 2008 12:23 PM (R7LgM)
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There's a German manufacturer of dishwashers and washers, Bauknecht. In the seventies, they had an advertising slogan "Bauknecht weiß, was Frauen wünschen", i.e. "Bauknecht knows a woman's secret wishes"...
Lily
Posted by: Lily at May 26, 2008 12:51 PM (Y8m4l)
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You have twice the amount of bottles to wash than I do. Get this woman her freaking dishwasher NOWWWW!
Posted by: Dotty at May 26, 2008 01:35 PM (rydMD)
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Something is seriously wrong when rain in the baby cribs is mentioned as an afterthought. This construction can't end soon enough, I'm sure!
Posted by: BeachGirl at May 26, 2008 01:41 PM (U+oUO)
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It's ok. You should have heard my cackles of delight as I put china in the china cabinet. Whatever gets you going is ok with me. As long as it's between a consenting adult and consenting furniture/appliances, i say live and let live.
Posted by: donna at May 26, 2008 03:14 PM (Yg10E)
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Oh... poor babies! Hope the ceiling situation gets better soon!
Posted by: Andria at May 26, 2008 03:33 PM (Oo4k1)
Posted by: kenju at May 26, 2008 05:29 PM (yvCMb)
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I'm so sorry about the tarps, but so thrilled about the dishwasher. I just hope Steve doesn't get jealous.
Posted by: sophie at May 27, 2008 01:49 AM (ZPzQL)
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Well, at least the rain saved you bathtime! Poor babies!
Posted by: Melissa at May 27, 2008 04:58 AM (+Wg/4)
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OMG! I was thinking, "damn they came out on a holiday.. oh yeah... just a regular Monday in the UK..."
YAY for the dishwasher!!!
Posted by: caltechgirl at May 27, 2008 05:36 AM (IfXtw)
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Oh it was a bank holiday yesterday, CTG. It was a day off, which made the rain, wind, and dripping roof suck even more.
Posted by: Helen at May 27, 2008 10:42 AM (qcoRS)
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I too love the dishwasher porn.
Poor babies.
Posted by: Anita at May 27, 2008 11:05 AM (9lpHU)
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Poor babies. Poor parents. I think I would be tired of being roofless as well.
Posted by: Cori at May 27, 2008 01:52 PM (LumIA)
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Oh you just know there is dishwasher porn out there somewhere with someone fapping away to it! AND Dishwasher fanfic. Dishwasher anime. Youtubes of dishwashers. SloMo Dishwashers.
Look at this one, what a tease!
http://www.ogormans.co.uk/images/Siemens_SE26T551GB.jpg
And this one:
http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/dishwashers7.jpg
One word; whore. Look at it, showing its naughty bits like that.
Whore. (but hawt, right? Oh yeah...haaaaawwt...bring it, baybeee...yeah, just like that...uh-huh...)
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I laughed out loud reading all but the end of this post. Then I laughed even louder when I got to the other Amber's comment. Hahahaha!! Now THAT is dishwasher porn, alright, and her captions to each link cracked me up.
I hope you are at least not being rained on anymore. I can't imagine what a shock that must have been to the babies' systems.
Posted by: Lisa at May 27, 2008 05:33 PM (EcHBm)
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Sorry about the rain. I'm imprressed you even have the good humour to come up with dishwasher porn.
Posted by: Betty M at May 27, 2008 06:36 PM (+Rjj7)
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I don't have a dishwasher, so I sympathize with you greatly (and I am without twins and bottles even). So go ahead-get orgasmic, I promise not to look-ok, maybe just a peek.
Ugh- poor, sweet babies-and poor, sweet mummy.
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May 25, 2008
Book Review - Water for Elephants
So my monthly book review this month featured
Water for Elephants, a book not only NOT about infertility, but really not even about babies. Or women, for that matter. Because while the book did have a great deal to do with a man's love of a woman, I felt the book was quintessentially the journey of a man.
Written by a woman.
And it's true I lack a penis (or at least not one that takes batteries or cajoling after a long day), but I think she did a good job capturing what it must be like to think like a man. I'm not saying that because the chap talked about jugs and football a lot, nor did he go around quivering whenever someone asked him if they looked fat in something. It was just - to me - a great narrative and a great story and the main character was someone intriguing and someone that you cared about.
The book told the story of Jacob, who was about 10 inches away from graduating from an Ivy League school with a vet degree when he hears his folks are killed. He goes home to mourn and learns his parents have nothing. This being the Depression, it means he has nothing now too, and so he does what every Kerouac has dreamt of - he hopes on a freight car and winds up being the vet for a travelling circus.
As you do.
And falls in love with a showgirl named Marlena (you thought I was going to say Lola, didn't you?)
And she's married to a giant asshole.
Who makes Jacob ride a rail car with livestock and an angry, masturbating midget (not making that up and I shudder to see what Google will send my way now).
The book is actually told in flashbacks by an older, 93 year-old Jacob. Jacob's age makes me want to weep, as he seems frustrated and locked in a body that's betraying him as he wastes away in a retirement home, desperate to be taken seriously.
The book was staggering. I usually read very quickly, even when handling infants, builders, and work, but this one took me a while to read simply because there was a lot to absorb. I found it a very imaginative, enjoyable book. I was surprised how much I liked the book in fact, because I absolutely loathe anything to do with circuses (clowns. Too close to clowns.)
Anyway, my book review questions:
What is your favorite circus related memory?
There are so many things wrong with that question. There is no such thing as a good circus related memory. It's not even possible. I've even been to Ringling Brothers, and I can tell you, I hated that, too. Why? Clowns. There were clowns there. I have been to Cirque du Soleil and loved that, but that's less circus, more "let's climb the drapes, shall we?"
On page 109, old Jacob complains about how his family keeps secrets from him: "And those are just the things I know about. There are a host of others they don't mention because they don't want to upset me. I've caught wind of several, but when I ask questions, they clam right up. Mustn't upset Grandpa, you know... Why? That's what I want to know. I hate this bizarre policy of protective exclusion, because it effectively writes me off the page. If I don't know about what's going on in their lives, how am I supposed to insert myself in the conversation?... I've decided it's not about me at all. It's a protective mechanism for them, a way of buffering themselves against my future death..." Reading this, I could see myself in both Jacob & in his family members, both in respect to our infertility situation and other matters. Whose viewpoint do you relate to most in this passage and why?
I'm going to piss some people off, but I'll agree with his family. I'm not sure if it's a reflection of my views on privacy or my views on family, but I do think things can or should be kept from people if you think it will upset them. I relate to Jacob completely, but I think boundaries are important in order to keep the relationships healthy and moving. Letting someone in completely is difficult and, to me, something best juggled with someone who has to experience your morning breath and your daily bad moods.
(From the discussion questions at the end of the book) Looking at himself in the mirror, the old Jacob tries "to see beyond the sagging flesh." But he claims, "It's no good....I can't find myself anymore. When did I stop being me?" How would you answer that question for Jacob or for yourself?
Haven't we all been there? Haven't we all had a moment after going through something terrible - or even more to the point while going through something terrible - and said "What's happening to me? Who am I becoming?" My own experience makes me want to walk up to Jacob and put my arms around him. I'd tell him at least he noticed he wasn't himself anymore.
Now what did he want to do about it?
Hop along to another stop on this blog tour by visiting the main list at http://stirrup-queens.blogspot.com/. You can also sign up for the next book on this online book club: The Empty Picture Frame by Jenna Nadeau (with author participation because she's a blogger!)
-H.
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I just finished that book coincidentally. I adored it, especially the ending, I was bawling my head off. Great great great read!
Posted by: Cheryl at May 25, 2008 05:37 PM (082BT)
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Glad to hear you liked it, I've been meaning to read this for a while, it's next on my list.
Posted by: water sign at May 25, 2008 06:15 PM (gRbZd)
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I read it last month and I loved it!
Posted by: kenju at May 25, 2008 09:41 PM (yvCMb)
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I liked the book too - more than I expected.
Posted by: suze at May 25, 2008 10:10 PM (rRuNC)
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I borrowed it from a colleague last week, this weekend I sat and read it from cover to cover, savouring each chapter - its now in my top 5.
I had never heard of it before last Tuesday but yours is the 2nd blog post I've seen about it in the last 2 hours, I just hope Hollywood doesn't grab it and try and make it into a film, the images that the writer crafted were beautiful.
Posted by: Mia at May 25, 2008 11:00 PM (QUvkv)
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I love this book. I have donated to our library at work so many others will have the opportunity to read a great story. I asked my in-laws (80+) what was their favorite image of the circus back then. They had vivid memories of the trains pulling into downtown Cincinnati and they would all go down to the train yard to view the animals before the circus even began.
Posted by: Kakarenren at May 26, 2008 12:28 AM (WN4SR)
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This book was incredible. I didn't expect to like it but it is easily in my top five...I feel like I could recommend it to anyone.
Best circus memory: when my son was five, my parents sprung for front row tickets to Ringling Brothers. Michael was picked to go up and help the Ringmaster. When asked his name, he said Michael and the Ringmaster responded "my name is Michael, what's your middle name?" Michael responded 'James'. The Ringmaster was quite flustered and, turns out, his name was Michael James. Michael was then used in the next act where the shortest man, who has since passed away, helped a man use a chainsaw for a wood cutting trick. Turns out my five year old was taller than the shortest man...he was very excited about that. And, he still has the piece of wood with the shortest man's autograph. Truly a magical night.
And in the passage above, while I can see your point and would definitely act as the family did, I can totally relate to the old man's sadness that he is no longer confided in. He just wants to offer any wisdom he has and help his family if possible. Even the elderly need to be leaned on. they need to feel needed as much as possible.
Posted by: Melissa at May 26, 2008 07:19 AM (+Wg/4)
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Isn't funny how many kids are terrified of clowns?? Great answers, & thanks for sharing them!
Posted by: loribeth at May 26, 2008 02:06 PM (pYHpB)
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I absolutely loved the book also, and it is out of my usually genre.
I remember the smell of the circus, being terrified for the high wire performers, and my sister got to ride the elephant which made me sorely jealous as I was the one who collected (and still do to some extent) elephants. It should have been me dammit!!
Posted by: sophie at May 27, 2008 01:47 AM (ZPzQL)
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Hear, hear on your general assessment of circuses.
Your intro to the questions was hilarious!
Posted by: Lori at May 27, 2008 02:28 AM (FTDQY)
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Hi Helen! I'm back from a bit of a blog haitus. I read this book last year and it is still sitting out instead of being put away in the bookshelf because I like being reminded of it every time I come into the office. I am a total book snob and I really loved this book also.
Posted by: Donna at May 27, 2008 03:38 AM (7x2/X)
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I skimmed through your review because I bought this book some time ago but haven't started it yet. (I'm on a Stephanie Myer kick, please don't hate on me *cringes*) but I agree on the clown thing; HATE CLOWNS!
I read somewhere that the reason some children (and many adults) are squicked by/terrified by clowns is because we cannot read their expressions. Instead of having a normal expression that we can relate to and react to, instead they have this grotesque false fake expression painted over their real face and to some of us (like me) who constantly gauge other people by their facial expressions and body movements, the whole clown thing is a total nightmare.
No WAY to tell what a clown is thinking, therefore they must be thinking something horrible. Like murdering us all when we turn our backs, right? Yeah, of course that's what they are thinking, they CANNOT FOOL US!
Anyway...can't wait to read this book. Everyone seems to love it.
Posted by: The other Amber at May 27, 2008 04:18 PM (zQE5D)
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I, too, loved this book. You might try this
three book series, too. It's simply wonderful.
Posted by: Omnibus Driver at May 27, 2008 04:25 PM (WOXRM)
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Your review absolutely kills me - you are very witty! I too shudder to think what google may send your way - lol!
Thank you for sharing your insights and lovely humorous prose.
:0)
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May 23, 2008
An Answer
I didn't write yesterday as I was enjoying yet another round of flu to hit this house, so I alternated between crawling to the toilet to vomit and crawling to the bed to sleep, not an easy feat considering they're re-roofing the house right now.
But I also didn't write as I needed some time to put my thoughts together. There were some comments on Wednesday that hit me the wrong way. There were a few things I wanted to sort out in my head before writing it through.
I work in telecom. I never chose telecom, in fact I don't even like it all that much. But here I am and I'm too old and too stuck in life to change. Sure I'd like to be a writer. I might need to try to publish something first. Sure I'd love to be a doctor. A little thing called med school would knock me out, I'm sure. Our way of life is based on both of us working and having incomes relative to where we are. We may be roofless, dusty, and a little broke, but we have a good life. This much I'm sure of.
Telecommunications is a man's field. I work almost exclusively with men, the only women generally being those in marketing or human resources. Maybe they think we're tough enough only for the softer jobs. Maybe they think we can't hack it. Whatever the truth, I am one of the very few women working in a technical space. This never escapes my notice, especially when it comes to hard, difficult projects. It may be that I get to know which men are married, have kids, or stepkids. It's far more likely that I'll get to know which projects they've worked on and which area of the country they live, the latter being the basis for where meetings are held.
But when meetings drag on to 5 or 6pm, no men dash out of the room as they have to get the kids from nursery. When we have emergencies on weekends, no dad says they can't make it as their kids have football practice. There was only one exception to this, a chap who had to leave at the same time everyday to pick his child up from school, as his child has autism and needs a rigorous routine. The others I imagine have kids, but I don't always know for sure because it's not a topic people tend to discuss.
Kids don't factor in this business. This is a man's world. Kids fit in around work for these men. I'm not saying this is the right way to do things, I'm only saying this is how it is.
And so enter a woman into a man's world. In my former rocket riding gerbil days, everyone knew I was childless. When I had the twins, everyone knew that too. It became a subject I would often hear - "You don't want to be doing x, you have babies to look after." Or "You won't be on project y, as your priority is to your kids."
Let me spell this out - my priorities are determined by me. Me. No one in the whole entire world can come in and tell me where my priorities should lie. Do I think that my priorities are my children? Generally yes, but this is not without exceptions. But I decide my priorities. I decide where things stack up. I decide how I need to approach situations involving me and my children.
Teresa and Melissia said what I was debating about in my head - Why can't Helen be a kick ass plastic bird project leader AND a kick ass mom? Why does it seem that a woman has to choose to be either one or the other?
Exactly.
What is it about squeezing something out of my thighs that means I no longer get to be the person I once was? Men go away on their two weeks of paternity leave, and when they come back it's assumed they'll go right back to working 12 hour days. Me, I am assumed automatically to work only 7 hour days. It's true that I end my days at a specific time so I can go get my kids and spend time with them before bed. But once they're in bed asleep, I log back in. Dedication can be divided, you just have to be patient. Why is the onus supposed to be on the woman instead of the man? Why does everyone view a woman becoming a mother as any different to a man becoming a father? We have just as much emotionally invested in the children.
The temptation for me to make my children my everything is huge, which is exactly why I mustn't do that. That puts a terrible burden on them, I think. If I were to know that I was my parents' everything I would forever worry that I could let them down, and that kind of worry is intolerable. Children need to be a part of life in general, no matter what occupation their parents have. Work, home, play, family, eating, sleeping, hugging - we all have our part to play. My children cannot be the only thing to keep me going in life, simply because it's not fair on them and doesn't show them the best way of making life well-rounded and even.
I reject the fact that in having kids it means that I am second rate now in this industry, that I can't do something, that I can't be something. It's hard enough as it is - sometimes when I'm with my kids I think about work, and often when I'm at work I think about my kids. I worked my ass off in college to graduate. Once I graduated, I worked my ass off to get where I am today. Work is absolutely, positively not my life. But it is a part of it. Working gives me money to buy clothes for my babies, electricity for our home, travel for our betterment, and above all a sense of independence for my soul. I got to where I am today because I worked my bloody tail off. That's worth something to me, that's worth being proud of and believing in. And if I feel better about myself then that can only be a good thing for my children - if I'm happy they'll know it. I honestly believe that children can sense when we're happy or unhappy, and if my children see a strong, happy, confident working person around them then I hope they'll grow to know that they can be that way, too. And if I am finally excited to be moved to a drinking bird project then that should mean I'm that much more attentive as a mom, because I'm not sidetracked worrying about what I'm going to be doing when I grow up.
I have children. Those children - despite our ups and downs - are a massive and wonderful part of my life. I revel in being a mother, but at the same time those revelations are private and if I am anything in real life, it's that I am fiercely private. It's frankly no one's fucking business at work whether I have children or not. I am wildly proud of my children, but that pride is mine to savor, it's not for the conference calls or the meeting rooms. My babies don't interfere with my job, they simply mean that I work in chunks of time. And I can honestly say that juggling that will be difficult at times, but my priorities are clear - I will take care of my children in the way that I feel is best for them emotionally, physically, fiscally, and spiritually.
At the end of the day no one I work with gets to judge me. Actually I think it's even broader than that. Absolutely no one gets to judge how I am as a mother. Someday when I die I might meet a nice man with a clipboard guarding a gate, and he might ask me how people might judge me as a mother. I will sweetly smile at him, peer over his clipboard, and tell him to fuck off. No one judges me.
No one but Nick and Nora.
Their opinions matter to me. I am accountable to them. And the choices I make are choices that I feel are what's best for them as my resonsibilities emotionally, physically, and financially. These choices are never made lightly, as the consequences are tremendous. And I am never in any doubt that they don't know how much they mean to me because if there's one thing in the world that I know I am it's this - I am a loving mother. I revel in that, although once again, I revel privately.
It's not about pushing my career away to tend to my babies. I know how I am as a mother. I know how I am as a project manager. And I can honestly say that one has nothing to do with the other.
-H.
PS-thanks so much to everyone who got involved in the auctions we held to raise money for Cali. Yesterday she made her goal, and has now scheduled her next round of IVF. You're all fabulous. We'll be doing another fund-raiser again to help another woman, stay tuned for the nominee and the details.
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May 21, 2008
Jumping
In November 2006 I tired of rocket riding gerbils. There's only so long you wanna' work with those little fuckers, it was past time to move on. I needed something new, I needed to get away from the 18 hour days, the endless phone conferences and emails, the hassle, the hell. At points in that project I was on three different calls at once, trying to juggle my project and my sanity.
I leapt to another project, one that the manager had stroked my ego for me to join.
I had gotten cocky, see. I had launched the rocket riding gerbil. I had worked like a dog - not without thanks, I should add - and managed to pull something off that I never thought I could. Of course I could take on another project, one that was in the shit, one that was top priority.
Only I couldn't. I started in November 2006. By end December 2006 I had realized I'd backed myself straight into a political nightmare. I was put into this new project as a puppet, as someone to be tightly controlled by an alpha female so dominant she made me look like Lady from Lady and the Tramp. She and I locked horns, and no matter how determined I was to continue driving my project, I started to flounder against her.
By January the depression had set in. I decided to check my brain at the door as we headed into our IVF round. I struggled along in the worst project I had ever come across, one in which I bashed my head against a brick wall every single day. The politics were killing me, I felt like I was drowning.
By the time the IVF cycle had worked, I had enough of bashing my head. The alpha female finally took her spiked heel and kicked it in my ass, pushing me over the side of the cliff. I checked out of the project, damaging my reputation and my psyche.
I moved on to two much lower profile projects. I ran them quietly and unassumingly. I got no notice, I went about my work, I just wanted to get my head back together after the unbelievable hell that last project had been. I was hopeful by the time I came back from maternity leave that I would have my soul back, and have the chance to work on hot exciting things.
It was not to be.
I wonder if other women go through this. Go back to work to find that it's all the same but different. Same projects, different people. Different projects, same people. All of whom have something to do and you hang out on the side and wait. And wait. And get asked about your kids. And feel marginalized but you don't know why you feel that way. No one has specifically said to me "Well, you went and had kids, didn't you? You made a choice. Suck it up." But I feel like that's the impetus of what's happening. I got pregnant and had children. I had self-abnegation while pregnant, and company abnegation when not.
My industry is like Hollywood, only without the lights, glamour, pay, and excitement. So nothing at all like Hollywood, really. In my industry you're only as good as the last project you delivered. My rocket riding gerbil had put me at the top of my stack. Everything after that had me tumbling down a hill littered with mobile phones.
My self-esteem was rock bottom. I was being winged from one project to another, not due to me but because of department re-organizations, although in the back of my mind I wondered if it was because I had failed at something. I couldn't even get my feet under desks before I was off on something new. I was getting desperate. I was very depressed about work, something I haven't been blogging about, and Angus was trying to prop me up enough to keep me holding on. I was going nowhere, and I was going to be staying that way.
Finally, a lifeline.
Someone approached me and asked me if I would be interested in something different. No more gerbils. No more rockets. Instead of working with anything I have ever worked with before in my 10 years in telecoms, I would be working on something new to me.
Would I be interested in working with those little plastic birds that swing and pretend to drink?
"I don't know anything about plastic drinking birds," I replied. "Nothing at all. Complete learning curve."
"We've heard you're good," they replied. "You'll learn."
Ha! I thought. They've bought the hype.
Angus smiled at me. "You'll be good at this. It'll be good to go into a new area, get out from your management structure and prove how good you are. They can't take credit for your work any more, and you're good."
"I'm not good," I replied fearfully. "I blew that project last year."
"That project still hasn't launched. It didn't stand a chance with or without you."
"But I still feel like I should've done better than I did. I fucked up."
"Maybe so. Then this is your chance to prove that you can do a good job," Angus said simply.
I took a deep breath.
I punched out an email.
I took the job.
I've switched departments and now am showered with masses of plastic bird details. I'm getting dug in. I'm freaked out and insecure but trying to remain calm and just approach a project the way it's supposed to be done. It's a whole new world, but one that doesn't know me from before - it doesn't know my failures, it doesn't know that I'm a mother (and I don't need them to know that, I don't want to be judged and that is how this industry works I'm afraid). I can just try. And this time, if I fuck up I'll learn it's because I can't do it.
But if I succeed, I'll learn it's because I can.
This is perhaps where I should learn to recite the mantra "There is no try. There is only do." I'll do mine without the Yoda voice though.
-H.
PS-sorry for being cryptic. My work does actually have a personal blogging policy, which is "knock yourself out, just don't talk about our company strategy or give out secrets". It's unethical to even consider doing so to me, but I still would rather keep details to myself.
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I love those birds!! If anyone can do this, you can.
(I totally understand about being cryptic.)
Posted by: ~Easy at May 21, 2008 10:55 AM (XD24A)
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You can do it - they already know that - that is why you have been asked to do it.
I have every faith - not that that means anything!
Good luck, we are all cheering you on as ever.
Abs x
Posted by: abs at May 21, 2008 11:14 AM (+gJH8)
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I am glad you have a project that inspires you. I worried when it seemed like you had been mommy tracked when you returned from maternity leave. It is a horrible and demeaning thing for bright and articulate women.
Posted by: Melissia at May 21, 2008 11:42 AM (mJWbf)
Posted by: Veronica at May 21, 2008 12:46 PM (YDLIU)
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I love those drinking birds, I remember being fascinated with them as a kid, lol!
You'll do fine, don't worry, you've done everything else you've set your mind to, (except for one thing, that was doomed from the start it seems, you probably kept it afloat alot longer than it deserved), and put in way more of your time than they deserved.
Posted by: Donna at May 21, 2008 12:51 PM (Hhu42)
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who doesn't love a drinking bird? seriously though, good on ya! Best of luck...I'm sure you're gonna kick some telecom ass!
I'm cryptic about work too...no worries
Posted by: wn at May 21, 2008 12:57 PM (Ou4lV)
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You know, I think it's universal that women who rise to any executive or semi-executive level feel the need to squash any others who even try. I have not yet worked with a single female exec who I would not cetegorize as a raging bitch with rampant, non-stop PMS. I don't get it. I would hope, if I ever made it to that level, that there was a way to do it without turning into that.
As far as the job - I know it's hard, because I love successes too - but sometimes the failures are as important (in what you learn from them) as the successes. I just quit my job. I quit, because the last project I was on was complete shit (too many french people), and it got to the point where it was no longer worth it - it was too hard on my family, too hard on me - and the project was doomed to fail with or without me. So now it will fail without me, but with lots and lots of documentation and emails of me saying "Hey - you need to do X, Y, and Z, or this is going to fail." and my management then totally ignoring me!
i think it's good to try new things sometimes. I'm trying cooking at home, and parenting. In a few months, I'll look again for another job. Something new. Any openings in the plastic bird business? ;-)
Posted by: Tracy at May 21, 2008 01:06 PM (jfil0)
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I would prefer sewing door mats to the things I have to do now- so cheers to drinking birds, where ever you may find them.
good luck,
Lily
Posted by: Lily at May 21, 2008 02:24 PM (WOW2K)
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Remember when Homer gets obese so he can work at home and then lets the drinking bird do all his work? Which leads to a near nuclear meltdown of Springfield?
Best. Episode. Ever.
"Press any key."
"Which one is the 'any' key?!?"
Good luck babe-I am pulling for you.
Posted by: Teresa at May 21, 2008 02:27 PM (sfK2J)
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I totally support you not saying what you do or where you work; I agree with your reasoning, you don't have to justify it.
Good luck with bird project!
Posted by: The other Amber at May 21, 2008 02:43 PM (zQE5D)
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Which is more important? Being a successful parent or being a successful bird builder? I say "parent" because this applies to men too. I could be making a lot more money in a higher profile job with more responsibility, and maybe I'd be considered more of a success. I'm probably underachieving professionally.
But while my children are young, I choose to dedicate the
maximum amount of time to them...especially during the formative years (1-7). There are 24 hours in each day; that's a fact. The more time a job takes, the less time the family gets. At the end of my life, I would much rather be considered a wildly successful father & husband than programmer.
Who cares if people see you as a mom? You ARE a mom!! You should revel in that, not hide it.
Posted by: Solomon at May 21, 2008 03:05 PM (x+GoF)
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And NOW you know why I checked out of Corporate World a while back -
To take shit from women because of my Mommy Choices AND take shit from Corporate Broads about my Work Choices sounded so much like the seventh circle of hell, I sold myself short (read: stopped with the education thing and started being a typing monkey) and got the hell out.
And you know what? I have a high level of professionalism AND I'm able to be home for my kiddo.
That's MY world.
As for you?
You'll kick THE PLASTIC DRINKING BIRD'S ASS!
Seriously. You CAN do it. (and for me, I hear a Romanian accent when I say that - because you know the Romanian Gymnastics Program kicks ass, too.)
You can dooo eeet!
Posted by: Margi at May 21, 2008 05:21 PM (M2NT5)
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I love the beginning of a new and interesting project, even if it is kind of daunting.
Good luck. I know will soon be master of the drinking bird and all its secrets!
Posted by: caltechgirl at May 21, 2008 05:24 PM (IfXtw)
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I always liked those little birds that bop over and take a bow or a drink or whatever it is they're doing. Only good things can come from them
Posted by: cursingmama at May 21, 2008 05:32 PM (PoQfr)
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I will offer hearty congratulations. I've been in soul-sucking jobs before and moving on is a good thing, even when it's brand new. After a decade in IT I switched to engineering, something completely new to me, although I had been schooled in it some ::coughmanycough:: years before. When I was offered the job, I said "You do realize that I've never done this, right?" I received the same response you did: "You're obviously bright. We know you'll do fine."
So far, so good. Two years into a brand new career and I still like my job. I'm probably the oldest junior engineer in the company, but the company has been happy with my work and I work with some really good people.
I know you'll do great in your new gig. Just be you and everything will turn out fine.
Posted by: physics geek at May 21, 2008 05:50 PM (MT22W)
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Solomon's response is perfect.
Posted by: Angela at May 21, 2008 05:53 PM (DGWM7)
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I'd give my usually unsolicited advice again, but it looks like Solomon beat me to it. So I'll just take a number and stand in line.
Seriously, though - ever thought that maybe your success should be measured more as a mother to Nick and Nora than how well you can design drinking plastic birds? That maybe the job should only be a means to an end, and the real end should be raising your babies? Twenty years from now, hardly anybody will remember or care about your workplace achievements, but everyone that matters will care about how well you raised your kids. Particularly the kids themselves.
Posted by: diamond dave at May 21, 2008 08:25 PM (K3LYx)
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god, sounds exactly like my job. you don't by any chance work in advertising for a tech company, do you? that would be too surreal.
Posted by: Carol at May 21, 2008 08:39 PM (PGzrn)
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Congratulations - and good for you for taking that bull by the horns. I have no fear that you will succeed if you want to.
Posted by: kenju at May 21, 2008 11:51 PM (yvCMb)
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I do have one question.
Why can't Helen be a kick ass plastic bird project leader AND a kick ass mom? Why does it seem that a woman has to choose to be either one or the other?
Just sayin'...
Posted by: Teresa at May 22, 2008 01:17 AM (sfK2J)
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I have to double comment and say that there is no reason that Helen can't be a great mom and a great dipping bird innovator. They do need updating as they are so 1970's. I can't wait to see what she comes up with!
Posted by: Melissia at May 22, 2008 02:07 AM (mJWbf)
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I work my butt off because I don't have a family to pour it into. Or maybe I work my butt off because now is the time for me to achieve and get all of my corporate acknowledgment/accolades before I make any significant changes in my life to accommodate someone other than myself. I dunno. I don't see why there has to be a choice, but I like to think of it as you move from one phase, where you are one person, into another phase, where you are a better-rounded version of that person. Companies' needs change, and so do ours.
Posted by: dawn at May 22, 2008 03:16 AM (cADtK)
Posted by: Lauren at May 22, 2008 07:47 AM (OnF6i)
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I think you are doing a fantastic job balancing work and family. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Posted by: TNC at May 23, 2008 12:58 PM (s31/e)
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"I know how I am as a mother. I know how I am as a project manager. And I can honestly say that one has nothing to do with the other."
But they do have something to do with each other--they are both being done well.....by you.
Posted by: Donna at May 23, 2008 03:15 PM (Hhu42)
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Been there, done that. Glad you appear to have a new exciting challenge. You'll do great. We have every confidence in you!
Posted by: sue at May 23, 2008 07:20 PM (WbfZD)
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Amazing comments. Most I support. A few are way way off base.
My ex-wife is also a physician, present associate is a female. Have know many female physicians and females in high places of power and leadership. Things I have observed:
All have had to be better than their male colleagues to just be judged adequate. Seems to be changing.
Us the F word in a meeting as a female and be judged harshly; as a male not.
Be even a litte demanding as a female be labeled and real bitch; as a male be praised.
The list goes on and on. It is not fair. Is biased. Is reality. But I do see change.
There is no reason why you cannot and should not and will not be a kick ass Mom and a kick as professional. You already are.
Any one who suggests otherwise is, IMHO, way off base.
Posted by: Foggy at May 23, 2008 08:42 PM (iVaTz)
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I cheated and read the above post first but...
Welcome to the jungle.. You're doing great girl, just keep swimming!
Posted by: Laura at May 24, 2008 02:59 AM (ut68K)
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One little thing— You have a lot of talent and energy to expend. Just don't forget to save a little for yourself and *don't feel guilty* for doing so. Think of it as an investment— investing a little time for you will give you more for Nick and Nora and wide world accomplishments.
(I say this as a chronic overscheduler. Just so you know.
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Posted by: B. Durbin at May 24, 2008 05:37 AM (tie24)
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Kudos to you in your drinking bird ventures.
As another woman working in a male dominated field (Engineering) , you really sound like the type of woman that I would want to work with. It's not right that companies put women on a mommy track after having children, but it's not only the companies that do this... many women contribute to this themselves. In the last few months, I have seen women talk about their children's dirty diapers during a technical training session, leave straight from an important work meeting because their child needed something, regale their collegues with the details of their child's stay in the NICU during another meeting, take cell calls from their child during a departmental meeting, and so on.
And I hate this because it reflects badly upon ALL women in the workplace, childed and otherwise, and contributes to the impression that once a woman has kids that their brain comes out with the child. It is an unfairness for women in the workplace, but not all of it is unjustified. But it does make is much more difficult for the woman who strives to be professional and to be respected as such in the workplace.
Posted by: rochelle at May 24, 2008 05:08 PM (/Yi3B)
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I believe you can be an amazing mom AND an amazing drinking bird engineer. Just so you know where I stand on all of this hoo-ha. You are who you are and nothing and no one will stand in the way of being the best "you" you can be.
<3
Posted by: Lisa at May 25, 2008 03:08 AM (EcHBm)
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I am sure that you will knock 'em dead. Bright and creative women, such as yourself, tend to do just that! Good luck, Helen. I am rooting for you!
Posted by: stacie at May 25, 2008 06:35 AM (Lr4xO)
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I was on vacation last Thursday & Friday and am just now getting to respond. I won't address anything Helen said in her "Answer" post since she left comments off, but I did want to address some comments made here.
There is no reason why you cannot and should not and will not be a kick ass Mom and a kick as professional. (Foggy)
Why can't Helen be a kick ass plastic bird project leader AND a kick ass mom? (Teresa)
I guess it depends on how one defines "kick ass mom" and "kick ass b.p.l." Assuming a 9 hr work day (including lunch), an hour for getting dressed and to work, a half hour to get home, and kids go to bed around 8 or 9, that leaves a working mom between 2 & 3 hours/day with her children. If that's one's definition of a k.a. mom, I guess one can be a k.a. mom AND a k.a.b.p.l.
As I pointed out previously, the Solomons aim for what we think is the best; don't always hit it, but that's what we aim for. One way to figure out what one thinks is the best is to determine what he/she would do if he/she was independently wealthy (i.w.). For dads, if you were i.w. would you work 70 hours/week, or would you work the required 40 and go home and hang out with the family? For moms, would you work at all or put your kids in day care?
IMO a k.a. mom spends as much time as she can with her children and a k.a.b.p.l spends as much time on the project as she can. In that respect, the two are competing forces. A k.a.b.p.l. will periodically be asked/required to work late. THAT will compete with being a k.a. mom. A k.a. mom will periodically be required to stay home with sick/needy kids. THAT will compete with being a k.a.b.p.l. I truly wish Helen the greatest success in being excellent at both of these tasks. But I also believe that one will eventually interfere with the other (it happens all the time) and one will suffer. Don't you guys agree that's a possibility?
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Solomon - there's a time to remonstrate and there's a time to shut the fuck up because the other party does not agree and has taken her toys home with her. This would be one of the latter.
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May 09, 2008
Falling in Love With Others
"It's not that I don't care about you anymore, because I really do," Angus says, his head down. "I'm sorry about this." He sighs and runs a hand through his hair. "It's just temporary, it's not that I'm tired of you, I just feel we need a break."
His shoulders drooping, he looks at me.
I shake my head.
"What are you on about?" I ask.
"I just can't bear any pain between us," he replies.
"They're just lights, Angus." I say.
"Shhh! Don't say that, they'll hear you and you'll hurt their feelings!" Angus admonishes, and then continues talking to his beloved lights - an experiment he did to prove that fluorescent lights can be dimmed - as he takes them down from the wall.
This weekend we hope to progress the kitchen, especially as we will be losing our piece of shit temporary kitchen sometime soon. We've chosen the tiles for the new floor (grey slate) and chosen flooring for the dining room and living room (oak floorboards) and have finally decided the layout of the kicthen. The cupboards will be purchased shortly, and the granite work surface still needs to be ordered.
The sink arrived earlier today (we didn't buy it from B&Q and we didn't pay that price. We're relentless about hunting down the lowest price and we have done so with every single thing we've bought so far.) The sink isn't to everyone's taste, but we both liked the look of it. It's different and it won't stain like our stainless steel one has, courtesy of coffee grounds and squash, the same squash which stains the babies' bums yellow. I do worry it's a bit Disco Stu though, and that people will expect lots of bachelor pad black leather furniture, chrome, and neon sculptures on the wall when they see the sink.
The sink was delivered by a courier company, the driver of which decided to strike up a conversation with me.
"You from the States?" he asked.
"Yes I am," I reply, moving shoes out of the way so he can move our sink inside.
"I want to go to the States but I can't get a visa," he says sadly.
"You don't need a visa if you have a UK passport," I say, rising from my shoe shuffling.
"I do though. I was convicted of a firearms offense."
Oh. My. God.
"Firearms are hard to come by in this country," I smile nervously.
"I know. That's why the U.S. won't let me in," he replies.
Look at the time! I want to shout. I have to go now, thanks so much for dropping off the sink and help yourself to any valuables you want in our home on your way out!
Naturally I don't say any of this. It's strange that a total stranger confesses this to me, but at the same time we all make mistakes, my mistakes generally being about relationships but hey - I guess firearms play different roles for different folks.
People with a criminal past don't stress me out too much, really. Two of our builders are on driving bans for drinking and driving offences. At least one of our builders has spent time "at her Majesty's pleasure", and he is one who honestly is keen to walk the straight and narrow. We all fuck up. Maybe I should make a deal with them, I'll promise not to marry the wrong guy again if they'll promise not to drink and drive.
We have, however, installed a lock on the study door, where we keep all of our valuables. It's not that we don't trust the builders because we do, and the Cowboy would kill any of his team who got caught stealing. I'm not kidding. The Cowboy takes his company's reputation very seriously, he would never stand for theft. But he has to use various sub-contractors that we don't know, and for that reason (and because our extra house key which we foolishly forgot in a flowerpot outside disappeared) we changed the locks on the house and installed a lock on the study. Never hurts, and might as well remove the temptation.
Anyway.
The drains are being installed in the kitchen so that we can shortly hook up the new sink, washing machine, and dishwasher. I have missed the dishwasher more than words can say. Reuniting with it will be like going to bed with the best lover in the world and making him sleep on the wet spot. I also miss the washing machine actually working - we have to stand by with an empty formula can in order to bail out the pipes when the washing machine is on spin cycle.
Admit it. You're so envious.
This afternoon I have to go pick up the cooker hood (aka the vent). We were completely out of ideas - having budgeted little for the hood we were shocked to find out how bloody expensive they really are. We couldn't find anything we liked for a decent price, so we decided to go to a posh showroom to simply figure out what styles we liked. Once there, we zeroed in on one we both loved. The vent, however, retails for £1500.
Oh how we laughed.
£1500 for a vent isn't even up for debate in this house.
The good news was the posh showroom wanted to display some new stock and told us we could have the display model for £400, which is cheaper than most of the cheapest, nastiest vents on the market today. Let's see now - uber cool and expensive vent for a ridiculously low price? Lemme' think about it.
We thought for about 0.5 seconds.
I go to pick up the hood today (Angus is in London).
And finally, I had to come clean to Angus. It was hard for me, but it had to be done. My feelings have been changing, and it has gotten to a point that I could no longer ignore.
I have actually fallen passionately in love with someone else.
And yes, I love him so much I do want to marry him.
His name is Steve.
He moved in with me last Sunday, and I can never love another again.
-H.
PS-to anyone coming in from that website that is dumping traffic here - I don't know why you're here. Apparently it's from a link that includes the words "black chicks love white people's cocks", so lemme' 'splain: I am not black, first of all (not that there's anything wrong with that, I just hate to disappoint when you see my face, the color of which is akin to rice powder). Seondly, I never use the word cock because it's just a word I don't like. I prefer dick. Penis is ok. If you want, you can even call it a wee willy winkie, I don't care. And third, why is it "white people's cocks"? Shouldn't it be "white men", or are white women armed with special parts that I don't have? Whatever the answer, if you came here from that site just move along, pod people. Move along.
PPS-if you have an account on Flickr, comment here, and aren't linked to me and my baby photos, let me know. I think I missed a few names several months ago when the whole brewhaha went down (I've been dying to say that for days - brewhaha. So pointless and yet so good.)
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Wo ... steve is one cool dude! Sounds like real progress in the house .. .woo hoo!! PS We just had loads of rain here in west london and it has cooled things down a little bit!
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Posted by: moira at May 09, 2008 10:12 AM (UGBIN)
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For one brief shining moment I thought "maybe she means me." Then I clicked on the link.
Oh well. It was a nice thought!
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at May 09, 2008 10:18 AM (R7LgM)
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I am also possibly in love with Steve. I think my boyfriend would like him too though.
Posted by: Marian at May 09, 2008 10:25 AM (ZD4nv)
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Yes, I can see wy you are so taken with "Steve". My anticipation waiting for the link to open was boundless. You are so talented.Thanx for all your posts
Posted by: Charles at May 09, 2008 10:35 AM (maQJG)
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Ohhhh I love Steve too!
My God I want one of those - can you ask him if he has any brothers?
Posted by: lucy pemberley at May 09, 2008 10:37 AM (esFVB)
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Steve is, I must confess, gorgeous. I wouldn't mind a bit of Steve myself when I move into some kind of proper place. Love the vent too.
By the way, I read and comment veeery rarely. Can I be added too?
Posted by: Vanina at May 09, 2008 10:37 AM (9GnPQ)
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Man, Steve is all new, shiny and studly! Looks like an industrial strength unit used in restaurant kitchens. Wish I could have something like that in my home!
Posted by: Ernie E at May 09, 2008 11:51 AM (ZfrqE)
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Loving Steve - we have one a bit like that.
PS something has gone missing in the post between the builders doing time and the vent.
Posted by: Betty M at May 09, 2008 12:10 PM (q0m9f)
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I don't comment often but I love your baby pics!
Posted by: gal_from_mich at May 09, 2008 12:23 PM (9AFu1)
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It's different and it won't stain like our stainless steel one has,
By definition (and name) shouldn't a STAINLESS steel sink NOT have stains?
What toxic by-products are you putting down your sink to stain something that's stainless?
I think you may have edited out something accidentally as you change thoughts in mid-sentence:
At least one of our builders has spent time "posh showroom to simply figure out what styles we liked.
I was just curious about the guy who spent time. Seriously.
Posted by: Solomon at May 09, 2008 12:59 PM (al5Ou)
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Solomon and Betty - you're completely right. I got a little cut-and-paste happy. It's been fixed now.
Posted by: Helen at May 09, 2008 01:01 PM (JnKLH)
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Too funny - the bit about Angus talking to his beloved lights reminded me of you coming clean about cheating on your books. I am horribly green-eyed with jealousy over your wonderful Steve and his vent-to-be.
Posted by: Lisa at May 09, 2008 01:11 PM (EcHBm)
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I don't think I'm linked at Flickr. But must say, Angus and his lights! I think that is hilarious.
Posted by: oddybobo at May 09, 2008 01:30 PM (mZfwW)
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You are going to have the slickest kitchen in the world, at the best price. It is not my style, but it is one I like in other people's houses. Does that make sense?
And the bloody British-they even make prison sound posh. "Her Majesty's pleaure" sounds like the name of a sex toy. Like it would be purple and covered with some fancy jems and shit-which really when I think about it could be painful or pleasureable, not sure which. Maybe a little of both.
The firearm sink guy? Yeah-glad he isn't coming to the States. Just what we need, one more person with a gun who shouldn't have one in the first place.
Posted by: Teresa at May 09, 2008 02:12 PM (uBmd7)
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Oooh, I love Steve too! I am drooling on the keyboard. I am SO jealous. We couldn't get a gas stove in our new house (I tried), just a stupid electric one.
Posted by: Jen at May 09, 2008 02:22 PM (FYm8s)
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Uhmm...does Steve have a sister?
Perhaps I shouldn't ask. We just spent $9K on our kitchen. I should just be satistfied with what I have at home.
(Not be a pedant, but isn't it spelled "brouhaha"?)
Posted by: ~Easy at May 09, 2008 02:23 PM (IVGWz)
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I am linked on Flickr, but I just got to say - Steve would make me have second thoughts about my husband, too.
Posted by: Julia at May 09, 2008 02:39 PM (FNm/r)
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Steve is one HOT dude. I'm very envious.
Posted by: cursingmama at May 09, 2008 02:49 PM (PoQfr)
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I think I have Kitchen Envy!!
I don't have construction envy though.
Link me up with flikr (yahoo address though)
Posted by: Cori at May 09, 2008 03:22 PM (LumIA)
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OMG! I want a steve, too. He's very pretty, but somehow I doubt A will be too jealous, as he can play with steve, too. Now there's a yummy menage a trois....
Posted by: caltechgirl at May 09, 2008 04:27 PM (IfXtw)
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What a fine name for a fine cooker. I'm jealous on so many levels.
I'm linked to you on Flickr, but when it all went down I thought it might be a bit intrusive to asked to be made a friend, or whatever Flickr calls it - but I miss seeing Nick and Nora.
Please don't feel you have to, though...
And why is my email address questionable? Whats wrong with being a UK ORGanisation?
Posted by: Steve at May 09, 2008 06:08 PM (BdC3G)
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Steve, Steve, I want one! (We're building a house and I'm looking at a GE Monogram - but Steve, wow!) Would you mind sharing a web link so I can shop, shop, shop?
Posted by: Jennifer (aka Kidlicious) at May 09, 2008 07:07 PM (uTg5e)
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That seems like... a few too many knobs for just six burners.
Posted by: Sigivald at May 09, 2008 08:18 PM (3iY68)
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Steve is very admirable!
I said that word brewhaha out loud. It was fun.
That kitchen needs to be on HGTV or something it totally rocks!!
Posted by: steff at May 09, 2008 10:12 PM (hRVPr)
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Delurking to say that I don't envy you and your renovations. I can't imagine doing it without any kids, let alone twins!
Steve rocks, on so many levels!
I'm on flickr, katybatyboo.
Posted by: Katy at May 10, 2008 01:36 AM (D1v+a)
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That Steve is damn sexy!
Posted by: Heidi at May 10, 2008 03:59 AM (cR5BU)
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I would give my left nut for that stove,(if I had one of course) you lucky duck, that is my dream stove!!
Posted by: Cheryl at May 10, 2008 01:31 PM (082BT)
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I have a flickr account but am not linked to your photos. Would really like to be. I am so jealous! I heart Steve!!
Posted by: the mother hen at May 10, 2008 04:23 PM (AvESZ)
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Happy Almost Mother's Day!
Posted by: Stella at May 10, 2008 06:27 PM (sFS+Z)
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If you live in a hard water area then your lovely sink will show water marks really badly .. but you thought of that already. I had no trouble picking a sink but the taps were a chore, I wanted them all and that doesn't work so well unless you live with a plumber.
Posted by: Caroline M at May 10, 2008 07:11 PM (x3QDi)
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Wow ... sounds like you got some great deals there. Having been through some house "renovations" myself ... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you that it all passes quickly!
Posted by: joy at May 11, 2008 03:49 AM (veojC)
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From the states, just wanted to wish you a happy Mother's Day
Posted by: Robert at May 11, 2008 04:54 PM (vuNcT)
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Hello Helen,
I posted a comment and favorited one of your dog's pics on Flickr. You will find me as "MissElaine-eous." It would be nice if we could be contacts. We have exchanged places in a way, I am English born and live in California. Good luck with all your home renovations!
Elaine
Posted by: Elaine at May 11, 2008 05:19 PM (R7Qc5)
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Happy Mother's Day!!!!!
Posted by: Lauren at May 11, 2008 06:13 PM (iUfJz)
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Awwww Helen, Happy 1st Mother's Day! (albeit a little late)
Posted by: Heidi at May 12, 2008 07:36 AM (cR5BU)
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Happy Mom's Day, late... what a fun kitchen YOU are gonna have! Very nice. (I have a black sink, too, and love it!) I'm so envious. Steve looks way different than my Steve (aka Hubs) and appears to be much more functional...
Posted by: sue at May 12, 2008 03:22 PM (WbfZD)
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heh, I think I'm in love with Steve too...didn't realized that I dug guys before, but six burners...damn! Happy Mum's Day!!! (belatedly)
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May 08, 2008
Healing
Many years ago I was diagnosed with
borderline personality disorder. When I finally got the diagnosis the relief was instant, like a wave that pushed me under to a place where I no longer had to panic and struggle, I could simply drown amongst the answers. Extreme sufferers of BPD also have
dissociation, which I had for so many years that it has changed all of my memories, thoughts and feelings on levels I can't even being to unpick.
I started therapy after my third suicide attempt. My last therapist here in London was the best. Calmly but emotively we worked through so much that cataloguing it all would take years to get out. He told me that in his many years of being a psychotherapist, my background was by far the most unstable that he'd ever encountered, that I would no doubt have wound up a statistic, a name in the obituaries of a crumpled up morning newspaper, had I not sought help. I would have spiralled and split so completely that I could never have been whole, because in the end I was not only dissociating when bad things happened, I was dissociating when anything happened which triggered an emotional reaction. BPD sufferers are described as people who are the emotional equivalent of a third degree burn. It's the most perfect description ever.
In my therapy sessions I started to learn about myself and about what my condition had done to my way of thinking. The biggest issue was the dissociation. Even though I no longer dissociate anymore, I just couldn't get past it taking over my past and my memories. I called it "watching myself in a movie", because that's how it appeared. The worst of it was my entire childhood played out in a film before me. My memories were filled of watching another child grow up. My nightmares at night were about the adult me trying to rescue children, and failing every time. My therapist told me that was the adult me trying to save the little me, that I had to reach out and rescue the child in order to rescue myself, and I laughed and told him I didn't buy that shit, to go sell crunchy granola to someone else.
Then the Child Me started to make herself known. In a therapy session I would see myself as a child, standing against the wall in the room. The young me would be sat on the stairs, watching me. The goal was always to get the Child Me to disappear inside of me, to connect the two. We never succeeded though, and the closest we ever got was the Child Me curled underneath the sofa I sat on, her face even with the treads of my shoes on the floorboards.
I know this sounds crazy. I know it sounds like I should be locked up and the key thrown away. But this is how profoundly screwed up I was - when I talked about my childhood, the Child Me was there, in the room, the actor in the movies of my life. Some of my memories are completely lost, but at least we figured out where I started to break, where it began to go wrong. And I learned that even though I was broken, it didn't mean I was a write-off.
Nick and Nora give me so much in life. I am not trying tu gush about my children or idolize them, because trust me - we have our bad days. Nick helps me in so many ways, with his large eyes and even larger personality. My son gives me so much.
But it's Nora that's bringing me together.
Nora, the child with the colicky past. Nora, the one that no one could bear for so long. Nora, the one who I can point to the moment where I bonded with her. It wasn't when she was born, for although I was crazy in love with her from the beginning, she was a foreign little creature to me. No, it was on the plane on the way back from the States in January that we hit that patch of time that parents call bonding. Curled on my lap, spread-eagled and asleep, she snuggled into me during the entire flight from Amsterdam to London. We snoozed together, each of us taking turns sighing, and it was from that moment that I took her into places of my heart that hadn't seen light for many, many years. I just knew.
A completely stupid thing to say, but I just knew.
This is not to say that Nick hasn't wandered into his own abandoned corridors in my heart, because he has, and there is no comparison between my children as I love them equally.
This is just to say that there's something about Nora that is bringing me back together again.
There's something about her happiness and welcome that makes me feel like I am healing. The Child Me, the one under the couch - sometimes I can touch her. Sometimes I feel her. Flashes, really - suddenly I am her, making myself walk down the sidewalk in a way to make my ponytail swing. My shins vibrate with the feel of metal roller skate wheels on the bumpy driveway. My knees tighten under the mask of scabs from falling down. Sunlight hits the back of my neck.
These are things the Child Me had.
And for moments - just moments only - I am Child Me.
I can't explain why, but there's something about my daughter that is fixing me. My son, he's helping other parts of me, but my daughter has this in the palm of her tiny hands. When Nora's eyes light up at seeing me, I feel the Child Me just behind me, her breath on my neck. When Nora babbles and growls and gigles, I smell candy necklaces and banana scratch 'n sniff stickers. When Nora nestles her head on me and falls asleep, I look through my mind and see memories that come from me, not from me watching me.
The burden to be a whole person is on myself, not on my children. I am broken but I do not expect them to fix me, I know that only I can do that. I would never impose that responsibility on them because I want only hope, light, and stability for them.
But my daughter is helping me heal.
I knew that having children would teach me to be a mother.
I never knew that having them would teach me how to be the child I was, too.
-H.
PS-I've signed up for this Twitter business, although I have no idea what I'm supposed to do (suggestions welcome). You can find me here.
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Your ability to write so openly and honestly never ceases to astound me.
Children do change us in profound ways, and they do help us reconnect with the child we once were.
Posted by: ~Easy at May 08, 2008 11:19 AM (XD24A)
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Welcome to Twitter, took me a while to get my head around too... as in, I had an account for a YEAR before I ever really used it... now it's just a forum for blogging those tiny thoughts I never get a chance to write a whole post about...
I'd ike to hear yours, so now (cue: do do, do do... a la Jaws) I'm following you...
[OMG... I sound totally creepy... sorry... didn't mean to!]
Posted by: deeleea at May 08, 2008 11:32 AM (IphB3)
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I'm tearing up as I read. You have an uncanny ability to express yourself, Helen.
Our babies never know how much they do for us, just by being. They show us our unbounded capacity for love (of others, of them and of ourselves!)
Posted by: kenju at May 08, 2008 12:13 PM (yvCMb)
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When I was a child..and into teen age years...I had a major problem with rage. I don't know why - there are theories that it's from a molestation I don't remember, or from my parents very ugly divorce - but it was all-comsuming. In my teenage years my mother associated it with PMD - she said I'd have been able to kill somebody when I was premenstrual, and get away with it, because tehre was no doubt I had PMD.
When I was pregnant, I was afraid that rage would prevent me from loving my baby. I think it was there up until the day she was born. And I can't remember feeling it a single time since then.
Daughters are a way that we can "change" what happened to us. We can make it right for them, and in doing so, we at least learn to live in our own skin. I suppose it doesn't happen for everyone, but it IS a very healing thing, obviously for you and for me.
Just wait until she's a little older - it gets better ;-)
Posted by: Tracy at May 08, 2008 12:48 PM (sGr7w)
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Wow! Stunning bit of writing.
Posted by: CatCat at May 08, 2008 01:25 PM (+f0nX)
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I for one am glad you didn't wind up a statistic. Thank you for sharing this part of yourself and may the healing continue for you.
Posted by: Ernie E at May 08, 2008 01:55 PM (fRd8z)
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Twitter = Total Time Suck
I've found some very interesting people through it. Micro-blogging is what "they" call it I think. I use it to post whatever is on my brain at the time and to talk to other people who I am following. Good times!
It's amazing what these little beings can help us do with our own lives. Each of my kids have taught me to discover or rediscover different aspects of myself that I thought were lost or unattainable. They can test me and push my buttons like no other, but they can also make me laugh when I didn't think I could manage to crack a smile.
Posted by: Michele at May 08, 2008 01:56 PM (h1vml)
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This was great to read. The progress you've made is wonderful and your happiness and relief is palpable. Makes me very happy.
Posted by: Lisa at May 08, 2008 02:04 PM (EcHBm)
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Inspiring words. I have issues with my parents, and especially with my mother, who stuck with an abusive husband because she "didn't want to screw me up by not having a father". Yeah.
Posted by: Andria at May 08, 2008 02:10 PM (Oo4k1)
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Okay, I just got sucked into twittertopia and I find it pretty handy. (I use twitterfox in my browser-- and sometimes the SPAZ twitter client off my browser--google dem.) It's a quick way to upload random thoughts without actually blogging. (Like, "My cindy itches.") It's also an alright way to do little drivebys on your friends. And add @zappos because he's the CEO of a shoe company dude--and he gives shit away for free.
As far as the BPD and the kiddo--it makes total sense to me. Nora is your do-over. She's your chance to work out that your childhood was not typical and she's your opportunity to ensure that hers *is* typical, more or less (in the vein of typical that involves being loved ridiculously). I totally get it. It falls in line with the creation myths that I was emailing you about so long ago. Think about it.
Posted by: Ms. Pants at May 08, 2008 02:57 PM (+p4Zf)
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Working through mental illness, whatever it may be, can be completely exhausting. I've struggled with depession since I was a teenager, I can pinpoint it back to the moment the kids started teasing me relentlessly and thank goodness my mind blocked a lot of it out. It's hard though because I've always felt like a social pariah because of what I went through.
At 38, I've finally gotten it under control either that or I'm more content with my life. My periods of lows are very few and far between now. It's true what they say, sometimes after the age of 30 a person is better capable of accepting who they are and it becomes easier to not allow other people influence your feelings. At least that has been my experiance.
Most importantly, I'm so very glad you didn't become a statistic.
Posted by: Heidi at May 08, 2008 03:11 PM (cR5BU)
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I think it makes perfect sense that it's Nora that brings this about in you, for the simple reason that she is a girl. Your Child Helen is a girl and as such she relates to a little girl. Whatever the cause I'm so happy to hear this for you. I know that you worry about being a good mom to them both and hopefully this progress will convince you a bit more of your ability to not repeat what you went through.
This is only slightly related but the gender idea got my mind working. When I was pregnant, I think I clung desperately to the idea that I was having a boy because I was terrified to have a girl. I don't have a good relationship with my mom. We love each other, but my mother is not and never was maternal. I often joke that I raised myself. I always felt that I was a bother to her, even when I was very small. I know now that my mom has probably struggled with depression for most of her adult life but we don't talk about that and she won't admit it. My mom is not the person I go to for advice or guidance or support or sympathy. So I have no idea how to have the mother-daughter relationship I would want to have. I am scared every day that I'll do something (or not do something) to damage the bond Bridget and I have. But I think that having a girl is helping me heal some of that damage from my childhood (as minor as it is in the scheme of things) and try harder with my mom, and also be a bit more forgiving toward her.
Sorry I went off on a tangent there. Your post was thought provoking, obviously :-)
Posted by: donna at May 08, 2008 03:20 PM (Yg10E)
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I so wish my English was better- My head and my heart are full after having read this post, and though I tried at least four times, I am not able to wind my way between the words.That.Won't.Flow.
So all I say is
Holy Smokers...
What a post.
Lily
Posted by: Lily at May 08, 2008 03:36 PM (Y8m4l)
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I did the Child Me thing in therapy too; I think it's incredibly valuable, no matter what your "disorder" is or isn't or why you went in the first place.
Nobody goes into therapy with a big smile saying nothing's wrong, you know. ahahaha! And as fucked up as Freud was in some of his theories, he was right about our childhoods being the key to our crazeee. I didn't look at absorbing my Child Me as a "goal", though. Just because your Child Me ended up being close to you and not "in" you doesn't mean you "failed". Just the exercise of visualizing yourself as being little and protecting your little self with your now-Adult self is so healing.
I tried to do it with Dan one time but hell, I don't know what I'm doing, I'm not a therapist, so I probably shouldn't have because he reacted quite emotionally. In fact, his outburst of emotion was quite extreme and I thought, "Holy shit, what did you do, Amber?" But you know what? When things get dark for Dan, when he becomes overwhelmed by his insecurities and fears, he's used that tool ever since and it works.
It's a powerful one. And yes, motherhood is a natural healer (although it's NOT a reason to have children!). But my babies helped heal my emotional wounds too.
So glad your little ones are doing that for you as well. {{{hugs}}}} Beautiful post, Helen.
Posted by: The other Amber at May 08, 2008 03:37 PM (zQE5D)
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Although I didn't have therapy...but probably should have, I was a broken child, too. My children were my saving grace as well. Thank you for sharing this. You do it in such a totally beautiful way...
Posted by: sue at May 08, 2008 03:51 PM (WbfZD)
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So... I don't know if you're still seeing your therapist, but this made it sound like you aren't. Fair enough, really - you've got just a teeny bit on your plate right now. Is he just on the back burner for now? None of my business, I know, but I thought I'd ask anyway.
Posted by: amy t. at May 08, 2008 04:33 PM (3dOTd)
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Oh, and ps: I recognize those socks from your twitter icon. YAY!
Posted by: amy t. at May 08, 2008 04:34 PM (3dOTd)
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"I know this sounds crazy. I know it sounds like I should be locked up and the key thrown away."
Um... no. It sounds like a perfectly reasonable description of something the vast majority of us have never encountered. I have never had a disassociative episode but your desription makes me understand, a little, what it must feel like from the inside.
And I agree that Nora is a key because she is a girl, and by actually watching a little girl grow up you can see how that is different from watching yourself grow up. I think it's marvelous.
Posted by: B. Durbin at May 08, 2008 04:41 PM (tie24)
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That's beautiful Helen. I am so happy for you, that you are able to find this kind of healing and peace after so much trauma.
I have nowhere near the same kind of background as you. But even so, I too have been feeling something lately about my daughter that I haven't yet been able to put into words. There's some connection there that's even deeper than I realized before. There's a blog post in that sometime soon, I just need to figure how how to express it in words.
What's amazing to me is how, even at 7 months old, the relationship with each of them can be so unique. I love them both equal amounts (infinitely), but my feelings about each of them are unique. And already at such a young age I know that I have a different and special relationship with each of them. They each complete me in different ways.
Posted by: Carol at May 08, 2008 07:09 PM (PGzrn)
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One thing you discover about having children: You may love them equally, but the truth is that each of them has their own individual personalities and quirks. And that uniqueness about each of them is what you love the most. That is where you are right now with Nick and Nora. Each has their own special place in your heart, and you love them all the more for their individual unique qualities.
And to quote Don Henley: Sometimes I want to find my inner child and kick it's little ass. Because sometimes I think that's what's holding me back in life.
Posted by: diamond dave at May 08, 2008 07:53 PM (xOzxi)
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I love the way you were able to express something so complicated in a way that makes so much sense. Children are your second chance at a good parent/child relationship, and you most certainly deserve it.
Posted by: sophie at May 08, 2008 09:02 PM (ZPzQL)
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This is such a gorgeous post and such amazing thoughts. I became very emotional reading it.
Posted by: Mel at May 09, 2008 01:20 AM (ObM/P)
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You know I love you, right? ((hugs))
Posted by: Lauren at May 09, 2008 07:30 AM (iUfJz)
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My mother has never been diagnosed, but my aunt believes her to have BPD - only she has NOT sought help and was a horrible and abusive mother in many ways (though not all ways). Anyway, I have my own issues for sure and raising my daughter who just turned six has absolutely healed me. I re-parented myself through her - surely that is the difference between your twins - the girl represents you in your mind and she IS you in your mind on some ways. I don't think it's an unhealthy thing for you or me because we still see our daughters for themselves and don't impose our crap on them. But it is healing, absolutely to have a child.
I'm happy for you.
Posted by: Bonnie at May 09, 2008 08:28 AM (JnKLH)
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Thank you for your honest post. I wish I was as brave as you. You amaze me Helen, you really do.
Posted by: Anita at May 09, 2008 12:49 PM (pQ32H)
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That was among the most extraordinary posts I have ever had the pleasure of reading. You are, equally, an extraordinary woman, my friend.
Posted by: rp at May 09, 2008 05:41 PM (op1yW)
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I think once you become a mother coming from a non nurturing example of a mother that you realize as a mother what NOT to do. I was raised by my father from the time I was 6 years old seeing my mother and alcoholic step brother every other weekend. I didn't realize until my older sister brought it to light that the way our mother mothered wasn't normal nor nurturing. I have just had a baby recently and with every fiber of my being I want to protect my son from the hurt, angst and emotional neglect my mother caused me. It is something that I am just beginning to deal with now that I am a mother. I am so glad I came across your blog a few years ago. I find your writing to very insightful and helpful and humorous.
As for feeling bonded with my son, it is hard to say if I am or not. I think the sleep deprivation is still controlling every aspect of my day and that I am most likely PPD. (For which I am seeking help) Thanks for the post.
Posted by: Sk at May 09, 2008 06:41 PM (Ge15a)
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Your blogs are so heartbreakingling beautiful.
Posted by: kellyangelo at May 09, 2008 07:00 PM (rGGkh)
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Wow, that is beautiful! We all learn so much from our children & actually learn how to be a better parent & person from them. I am glad they are helping you to heal from the past. That is really amazing! I have a teenager now & when I hear people talk about their beautiful babies I think - just wait until they are a teenager. This has actually been the most challenging time of my life & thank goodness we love them as much as we do - otherwise it wouldn't be worth all the trouble!! I am still learning & guess I always will from my boys. Enjoy those precious babies. (Hey, it made me think maybe that is why you have 2 babies. They are a double blessing to you! They can help you finally join the real you & the actor you.)
Posted by: Cindy at May 10, 2008 06:26 PM (ER58c)
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This is an amazing post. I wish I could put into words how I felt reading it.
I just joined twitter as well and not really sure what's going on with it either. *LOL* I'm katybaty on there.
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May 07, 2008
Safety First, Children!
We were watching a news clip this morning about how much neighborhoods have changed here in the past 50 years. They showed children skipping rope, playing games, throwing a ball around in the street while mothers chatted and rocked baby prams from side to side.
"Wow," I said, shifting Nick to the other side of my lap. "Things sure have changed."
"How's that?" Angus asked.
"The kids are skipping rope in the street. That'd never be ok. A child could die of strangulation."
"And there's a kid sitting on the garden fence there. He'd not be allowed to sit on that in case he fell."
"There would be no throwing the ball around, either. Could hit someone in the head. Not to mention that ball games where you choose teams are exclusionary and damaging to children's self-confidence."
Things used to be much simpler. OK, we never would've been allowed to play in a bomb site, but still. Kids would entertain themselves with whatever they had to hand. And if they had nothing around to mess with, they'd make do with using each other as platforms in which to launch themselves of. This is what kids used to do - they'd dick around. Someone might get hurt, but then we'd learn not to do that kind of thing again.
I remember summers when I'd roll out of bed, throw on clothes, gulp down a bowl of cereal and then hurtle outside. I'd drag myself home around lunchtime, and then again for dinner, but in general I was out and about on my bike. What the hell I did during those days, I have no idea, but I remember being reasonably entertained.
I remember sitting in the car, waiting for my mother while she ran errands. Hell, Angus remembers he and his brother sitting in the back of the car, armed with two Cokes and a packet of crisps, while his folks went to the pub, which he said based on the number of kids in the backs of other cars meant it was pretty normal in the 60's. These days you can get arrested if you leave your sleeping child in your line of sight and step out of the car for two minutes. Leave a child in the car, even if you're only yards away and it's not boiling hot outside? Better have bail money ready.
I remember rolling around on the backseat without a seat belt. While I do advocate everyone in a car wearing a seat belt these days, I think it's wrong to dictate that children up to the age of 12 must be in a car seat, as is the new law here. Gives a whole new meaning to that "Mom, don't let my friends see me strapped into my car seat!" embarrassment.
It's all gone a bit mad. One of my co-workers attended his daughter's school pageant last year. She was in Snow White and the Seven Defenders of the Forest, because "dwarves" was ruled poticially incorrect. The nursery rhyme "Baa Baa Black Sheep" in banned here, you get "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep", which makes no sense as black sheep are real - they do exist! Why not talk about them? They even get three bags of wool, why not include them?
I get it that nursery rhymes are a bit much, but that's just it - they're nursery rhymes. They're old fashioned but pretty much not nightmare inducing. Why change the endings, then, as is happening everywhere? Shall Little Red Riding Hood and the Wolf sit down and talk animal conservation and how the Wolf might profit from a vegan diet? Shall Sleeping Beauty be changed to handle a sensitive portrayal of a woman with narcolepsy and a high IQ, as beauty is more than skin deep? Will Rapunzel not let down her golden hair in case it is viewed as objectification and, potentially, abuse of women?
I think back to being a kid, and I never viewed the nursery rhymes as being anything other than they were - fantasy. Beans don't grow into stalks that lead to giants and talking harps. Rapunzel wasn't objectified or abused by the chap who climbed her hair, she was just a dumb whore in need of a haircut, maybe some layers added to give it some movement. Women don't get identified based on shoes they left behind (unless they're like me, in which case they're shod in shoes the sizes of life rafts and can easily be picked out of a line-up of cuter, smaller sizes). The tales just were. Sure, some of them are definitely inappropriate (Little Black Sambo comes to mind, and some of the Uncle Remus tales maybe need to be explained to children carefully), but in general I don't think having those stories read to me colored my perception of people. Rabbits are silly, bears get stuck, and children the world over make mistakes.
I know a lot's changed in life. I know times are more dangerous, that more can go wrong. I know that handling children needs to be far more sensitive than people used to think it was, that damage can be done without the slightest provocation. Believe me - if anyone knows that you can fuck up your kids easily, it's me.
But at the same time, I guess I'm sad that we're losing the capacity to pick teams for dodgeball. Yes, it sucked to get picked last. Yes, it sucked to get pegged in the head. But it was also childhood, and let's be honest - for one gym class it felt kinda' nice to aim a ball at someone and not get in trouble for it.
I'm not sure I'm angry that we've become so sensitive and paranoid, or angry because so much has happened that we had to become so.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go see how much of Aesop's Fables are inappropriate, see how much blacklisting is being done there.
-H.
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I think about this kind of stuff a lot. I do not think it is a more dangerous world. I think we are just more aware. I also think we are more paranoid. Some parents take this way too seriously. You have to let go sometime, children need a little independence it is just hard as a parent to decide when and where.
Posted by: Judi at May 07, 2008 11:28 AM (1Y+4Z)
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hehe Some of this PC stuff just makes me laugh. I mean,
Snow White and the Seven Defenders of the Forest?
I blame the whole thing on Global Warming.
Posted by: ~Easy at May 07, 2008 11:28 AM (XD24A)
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I'm not actually sure times are more dangerous. Or if that's just what the media would like us to believe!
Posted by: Dotty at May 07, 2008 12:02 PM (rydMD)
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I don't know what type of sheep they're breeding in the UK but I know here in Canada there are no Rainbow sheep. I'm sure the black sheep grazing in my back garden would be terribly offended that they are no longer refered to.
Posted by: Anita at May 07, 2008 12:16 PM (pQ32H)
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I agree 100% - life is way too PC - try living it in a country like South Africa with human rights issues and it becomes rediculous - who wants to be known as a previously disadvantaged alternatively sexually orientated person?
Posted by: Cat at May 07, 2008 12:31 PM (+f0nX)
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I'm pretty sure that the nursery who tried the Rainbow Sheep version got slammed in the press and gave up on it. I confess I change the fairy stories when I retell them - my princesses are always in charge rather than mere decorative objects and are never ever blonde.
Posted by: Betty M at May 07, 2008 12:52 PM (q0m9f)
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Puts me in mind of a story recently about a Mum who let her 9 year old kid travel home on the NYC subway. He asked if he could, she took a leap of trust both him and the people he would meet doing it and said yes...
Needless to say it has sparked a whole raft of controversy... and actually a new organisation of parents who want to raise 'free range' kids. Interesting and challenging on many levels, but the freedom I had as a kid makes me really interested in ways to give the next generation some measure of that too.
Posted by: deeleea at May 07, 2008 01:04 PM (IphB3)
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I too think the world is more dangerous in some ways, and a lot of it does have to do with the media, for example the exploitation and sexploitation of young girls (Miley Cyrus anyone). But that is a topic for another day.
It does sadden me to think that my kids won't be able to play over at the school across the street on a hot summer's day the way I did until mom rings the bell for dinner, but from some of the weirdo's I have seen over there(and a one I had to actually call the cops on), I really wouldn't feel comfortable letting them wander on over there alone.
At the same time, we live in a world where even in my religious, conservative, small minded town I can go online and find at least 6 sexual offenders within 1/4 of a mile of the elementary school. Sure, when I was a kid there was probably just as many living around here, but we didn't
know about them. Sure, you might've stayed clear of the weirdo on the street who always wanted to "hug" the kids, even though he was single and had none of his own yet a yard full of toys, but as much as knowledge is power it also makes the world a lot scarier.
As far as the whole car seat thing, and leaving kids unattended, etc-it really burns me up. Yes, it is better we as a society help each other out and keep an eye on each other's kids-I mean I am not going to call the cops the first time I find my neighbor's 4 year old riding her bike down the sidewalk alone, way further then her mom usually lets her. Every afternoon, wearing the same stained clothing and tangled hair and no shoes, in cold weather? Yeah, that would be a different story. But get too heavy handed with laws and where is the parental responsiblity? When is it too much?
The whole PC thing kills me too. As I said, being in a Christian Reformed small town means we have not been assed with a lot of this mumbo jumbo, but some of the shit I read-whoo boy. Rainbow sheep? Hell no, as a knitter that is just wrong.
I could drone on and on about this, but you said it much better. Fables are fables, not word of truth. I see everyday how fast kids are made to grow up. I don't think you can point the finger at just one thing, but I wonder all the time what has led us to this place.
And it makes me sad.
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Posted by: Ms. Pants at May 07, 2008 02:27 PM (+p4Zf)
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My goodness, car seats up to age 12? My husband was already more than six feet tall at age 12.
I think it has all gone too far. Of course we need to protect children from some dangers that weren't there as much years ago, but I got to play in the yard when I was little and my kids will too.
Posted by: Jen at May 07, 2008 02:28 PM (FYm8s)
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Do you know that here now, you can't sit Indian style anymore at school? It's called Criss Cross Applesauce. I realize that it's not PC to refer to Native Americans as Indians. But honestly, don't people in India sit on the ground with their legs crossed? So isn't it still Indian style?
And I agree with some other posters. I don't necessarily think the world is all that much more dangerous, we are just more aware of it. Back when we were kids, we didn't discuss sex offenders and pedophiles on the nightly news. Now it's something we are all hyper-vigilant about - who is around our children when we aren't there? Or even when we are there? In some ways, we've changed for the better but we do take it too far.
But I also hate that my kid will miss out on so much stuff in the name of safety.
Posted by: donna at May 07, 2008 02:29 PM (Yg10E)
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Are they as crazy in the UK as they are in the states when it comes to food allergies? That's the thing that drives me crazy over here. Especially now that I've read several articles that state there is now proof that we are basically breeding food allergies in kids by being overprotective of them when they are babies (or something to that effect).
Posted by: amy t. at May 07, 2008 03:10 PM (3dOTd)
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Most of us have this cool thing called common sense and use it when raising our children. Yeah, there are people out there who really ought to read a book on how to raise a child. Like the mother who lets her 3 year old daughter drive her Power Wheel Barbie Jeep down the middle of a rather busy street past my house on a daily basis.
Frak, I've forgotten what else I was going to say. The Toddler just brought her entire "pants" drawer to me so she can put as many pairs on at once as she can.
I think what I was getting to is that I am sick of the rules constantly changing so our children are brought up in little bubbles. Once they get into the real world they're going to get kicked in the shins over and over again and now know how to react.
I think I get so upset over all of this because I see how it's made my 9 year old into a person who is afraid of everything and still has no idea how to ride a bike because she's afraid of falling. My mother in law put her in that bubble and I've been working for years to figure out how to pop it.
Life is gonna suck and little songs we sing are really about the plague. ... and we all fall down.
Posted by: Michele at May 07, 2008 03:11 PM (h1vml)
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I think it's that we're more aware too. Plus, other people are more aware of us, thanks to thinks like blogging. If I put pics up of my kid, and talk about what school she goes to, or what activities she's involved in - it's feasible that some sick bastard could show up there.
I had the same kind of childhood you did. Most of the moms in our neighborhood were home - but in the summer, I saw her for meals and after the street lights came on. At which time she promptly told me to bathe and go to bed! It was great.
The one thing I will say was different for me was that beans DID grow into beanstalks. If you squinted at the willow tree JUST RIGHT, it was a perfect beanstalk. I was a giant, and one of my friends was Jack, and we used our imaginations all damn day long. No video games, just playing! We played house and war and cowboys and indians. And I grew up with no prejudice toward cowboys, native americans, OR people from India.
Just the French. I don't like the french. But that's due to experience, not fairy tales.
Posted by: Tracy at May 07, 2008 04:18 PM (sGr7w)
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If you haven't read them yet, I highly recommend the Politically Incorrect Fairy Tales/Bedtime Stories series of books. It takes today's ridiculous concern about everything and modifies the tales appropriately. While the results are ridiculous, I believe that they're quite indicative of where we, as a planet, might be headed.
I too remember staying away from home all day playing, running, whatever. When I was 10 years old, I walked 2 miles -each way- to the library to work on a school project. No one thought anything about it. Now, I don't let my children out of my sight for a second. Kind of sad, really. My son and daughter will only be familiar with an overly protective society, and I think that's just too bad.
Posted by: physics geek at May 07, 2008 04:40 PM (MT22W)
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Hell I remember my mom would leave my brother and I in the car for an hour or more while she would go grocery shopping across the border in the U.S. and we would be left to entertain ourselves. And this was in the early 90's! Then again you could enter the U.S. (from Canada) without documentation for an afternoon of shopping with your kids and not be assumed to be kidnapping them.
Posted by: Sk at May 07, 2008 04:48 PM (Hpefv)
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I distinctly remember going to a massive flea market with my mom and being allowed to run all over the place, unattended, without a cell phone...with strangers walking around...without knowing where, specifically, my mother was.
I also remember climbing ropes in gym class...without mats beneath. And going to the mall on weekends, without supervision.
I cannot even fathom doing those things with my future children. Sad, isn't it?
Posted by: Lauren at May 07, 2008 04:55 PM (iUfJz)
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There's a great blog that started up here in the US called
Free Range Kids that I've come to love for this exact topic.
Posted by: amber at May 07, 2008 05:05 PM (HCbA1)
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Amber, that's an awesome blog. Thanks for sharing.
And seriously, what the hell is wrong with people? Kids need unreality. That's how they learn right from wrong. Sheesh. If you never give a kid a chance to decide for themselves what they think, they'll never learn to THINK. I could go on and on.
And car seats for 12 year olds? Seriously? Here in the states it's either age OR weight and size, so bigger kids get out of the seats when they no longer need them..... although the NC rules would still include my graduate advisor, except that she's, you know, IN HER 40'S... ARRRRGGGGH.
Posted by: caltechgirl at May 07, 2008 05:16 PM (IfXtw)
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Great post, Helen, I totally agree. Parents UNITE! Don't let your kids be overprotected wussies. *makes fist of solidarity*
I remember telling Lucy (and later, Ray) to stay away from the swing when someone was swinging. I kept running after them and moving them away and one day I didn't get there in time and WAP! The feet of the swinging kid hit them in the head and knocked them flat.
They cried loudly, had a bump and never walked in front of a swinging kid again.
But they took all the swings down at the parks now, so...
Damn sad.
Posted by: The other Amber at May 07, 2008 05:28 PM (zQE5D)
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They don't have to be in a car seat up to 12, mine is 8 and can legally travel without one now because he's reached the qualifying height (although he gets to sit in the seat anyway because I Say So)
There was a whole generation of us left in pub car parks with a coke (in a glass bottle) but I never got the crisps. Deprived, that's me.
I let my son walk from the school gate to meet me. It's not much more than a hundred yards, no roads and I can see him the whole way along. One of the other mums told me that she didn't think it was safe although she couldn't actually say what dangers there were in a short supervised traffic free walk. When I was his age I walked a mile home from school and crossed three roads doing it. We all did, it was the accepted norm. It's one of those areas where what is socially acceptable has changed in less than a generation.
Posted by: Caroline M at May 07, 2008 06:29 PM (x3QDi)
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Michele— for some reason, I was one of those kids that had trouble learning to ride a bike until about eight or nine. What my parents did is got me a new bike with a banana seat, lied through their teeth and told me they couldn't put training wheels on it, and ran next to it, holding on, while I learned to balance it. And then my Dad showed me his empty hands.
Try it, it might work. Especially the "lie through your teeth and say you can't put training wheels on."
To everyone, they've done studies and shown that, statistically, it's not a more dangerous world in the least. We just hear about it so much more that we're hypersensitive on the subject.
After all, twenty-five years ago one of my brother's classmates WAS actually killed by a stranger, and you can
bet that we all learned the "stranger danger" techniques. But... it hasn't happened again to my knowledge. In 25 years, sure, there have been deaths of kids reported, but it's more of the usual suspects (drugs, gangs, domestic violence.) Nothing quite so memorable as a child predator.
(Not exactly reassuring, was that? Ah, well. Life is full of nasty sharp edges, and quite honestly, the closest I ever got to permanently damaging myself was on a school playground, not in what could be considered more dangerous circumstances.)
Posted by: B. Durbin at May 07, 2008 06:39 PM (tie24)
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Unfortunately what it sounds like is you got a bad case of Nanny State working overtime on your side of the Atlantic. It's almost, though not quite, as bad here. We're being forced to raise our kids pussified. I remember when the parents could cut us loose in the neighborhood all day with only the admonition that we'd be home in time for dinner, or before dark. We could roam the neighborhood, play in the woods or the creek, walk to the corner store, etc. Oh yeah, if we started trouble we'd get called down by someone else's parents, who'd tell OUR parents and then our asses would get beat. Good way of teaching some personal responsibility and accountability.
Posted by: diamond dave at May 07, 2008 07:28 PM (xOzxi)
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B. Durbin: We started trying this lie last year. She was determined to learn how to ride that bike, but soon fall hit and school started. She's started again just recently (we live in northern Minnesota and haven't had a good Spring yet).
It's a combination of lack of balance and fear. It's like trying to tell a toddler how to sort out if they have to use the bathroom. All you want to say it "you just know" but that's not the answer they're looking for.
Incidentally, we're also trying to potty train our 2 and half year old with the incentive of getting a trike if she can follow through on the whole thing.
Not only am I a liar, but a briber too!
Posted by: Michele at May 07, 2008 08:10 PM (h1vml)
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I so agree. I, too, remember waiting in the car while my parents grocery shopped. I, too, wandered the neighborhood all day long and played with the neighbor kids. I even rode my bike clear across town to go to the swimming pool and walked home from clear across town after band practice at the high school when I was in 5th grade... after dark! It was even safe.
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May 06, 2008
The Money Pit
The Money Pit.
Anyone else seen it, or is it only saddos like myself? A young couple (played by Shelley Long before she started taking herself too seriously, and Tom Hanks before he became, well, serious) buy a dilapidated house and try to rebuild it. Their contractor promises it'll be done in two weeks. Naturally it takes a lot longer than that because otherwise it wouldn't be much of a film - Two weeks? Rebuild? You got it! Everything that can go wrong does. It's a comedy of errors in pretty much every sense of the word.
A clip:
I always feel like we're seconds away from that happening to us.
The Cowboy and Angus conferred and remember that whole ripping off the ceiling in the soon-to-be kitchen escapade last weekend? Yeah. Turns out we weren't done. In conferring and looking at plans, it appeared the ceiling was still not right.
So Angus and I got up on ladders, armed ourselves with crowbars and goggles, and went to check it out.
That's not a blurry photo. That's dust. 100 years of dust to be exact. The babies were safely cocooned in another room, entertained by bouncy chairs, and Angus and I went to town.
It sucked big, gaping donkey balls. And the mess - dear God, the MESS.
We took the ceiling off completely, right back to the original joists. The ceiling was indeed too low, and now when the new ceiling goes on it'll be to regulation, which is 5cm (2in) from the joists. So we now have a great big high ceiling in the now-empty living room.
And quite a view from above, too.
I keed. The real view is this:
That would be light coming in from the floorboards from under my freakishly long toes. You can look right up into our bedroom from the spaces between the boards.
Our new temporary living room is the artist formerly known as the guest room.
That'd be the babies checking out the TV in preparation for In the Night Garden. The living room has everything we need - babies, TV, iDeck, couch, and mattresses lining the walls in case we feel we need a good bouncing.
The work never stops. We ripped out the ceilings on Saturday. On Sunday Angus drove 300 miles to pick up our new stove as we got a great deal on it if we were willing to drive to Nottingham (save £1000? Yes please.) While he was spending 7 hours on the road I watched the kids, did the grocery shopping, cleaned, and painted the garage. We were exhausted. And then yesterday - because it was a bank holiday - I continued my War on Carpets and ripped out the carpet on the landing with assistance from my apprentice Maggie.
Maybe it's because I fear I'll fall through a hole in the floor and be stuck in carpet for 24 hours.
Know what I found? Floorboards. Lovely ones. They were tarred at one stage, which is what people did when they had limited incomes - you had a rug on the floor and tarred around it to give the illusion of floor covering.
I didn't take the carpeting off the stairs, as they'll be too slippery and the entire staircase is going anyway, but I took the carpet off one stair and found gorgeous wooden stairs just aching to be stripped of carpet and provided with a loving coat of paint. Sadly, we can't reuse the stairs.
While I ripped out carpet Angus channeled holes in the walls of the to-be kitchen for the cabling which of course meant more brick dust because you just can't get enough brick dust, it's such a great thing, the way it covers everything and clogs the vacuum cleaner.
It's all exhausting. Really exhausting. We're covered in cuts and scrapes and bruises. Our bruises have bruises. Those bruises have moved in and adopted pets. I have a feeling that we'll be blowing our nose and brick dust will be coming out in our snot for the rest of our lives. When we finally showered late Saturday, after a day of ripping out ceilings, I had to wash my hair multiple times just to get all the dust out. The babies are always completely safe, they don't get exposed to the dust, but Angus and I are often one giant ball of grey.
But it's coming along.
No really. It is.
That's me standing on the first floor of what will be the new nursery.
I know that it won't always be like this, and we're only 5 weeks into a 16 week build. This week the tarps should go and the roof starts to go on. We get windows installed. Lots of things happening. Considering the fact that we're living in half a house, it's a constant fight with dust, we only have half a roof, the drains in our temporary kitchen are giving out, the grass in our garden is dead and whole sections are giant mud pits, and we're spending a fortune on what looks like tarp and duct tape, we're both actually pretty upbeat and still raring to go.
Which is a good thing, considering the sheer mountain of work we have ahead of us.
-H.
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I would love to come to your aid- there's nothing better against rage or fury than to tear down some innocent walls or ceilings. But alas. My work's killing me. Plus, there's no one to cat-sit my four furry felines... But perhaps they might assist your apprenti-cat in tearing out some carpet? After they've finished sitting in some quarantine kennel, that is.
Lily
Posted by: Lily at May 06, 2008 09:29 AM (Y8m4l)
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Oh my. So much for the vaunted IBC* that will unify the world.
The photos bring so many questions to mind. I won't ask because they're rather detailed and your eyes will begin to glaze over.
However you ARE making excellent progress.
*IBC = International Building Code
Posted by: ~Easy at May 06, 2008 11:16 AM (XD24A)
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I know exactly how you feel. My hubby and I have been renovating our 110 year old home for the last 9 months. At this point we have only plastic sheeting for walls and the floor outside our bedroom door (what will be the guest room) has a gaping hole in it. Makes going to the bathroom in the night a bit of a challenge! And I hear you on the dust! Horsehair plaster is EVIL! I just keep telling myself that it will be GORGEOUS in the end! Yes, that's the ticket....
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Posted by: statia at May 06, 2008 12:32 PM (5IjqH)
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Funny thing is, I think of that flick every time you post pictures of the house.
"Ahh, home crap home!"
The upside of course is that I can tell, despite what the pictures may look like at first glance, that the house is coming along, and I can see where things are headed.
How you stay so together is beyond me-it is like you are Superwoman. Really.
Posted by: Teresa at May 06, 2008 12:57 PM (q/m+M)
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I love watching your renovation process, seeing the before and after photos, but man I'm glad it's not me doing it. I'm totally overwhelmed by the idea of ripping out some azalea bushes (tips?), I would probably have a nervous breakdown faced with that kind of project!
Posted by: geeky at May 06, 2008 01:07 PM (ziVl9)
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The progress is really amazing. And your photo of Angus ripping out the ceiling made me cough from the dust clear over here.
Posted by: Lisa at May 06, 2008 01:40 PM (EcHBm)
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I've seen it, but your house wont fall down AFTER the work is finished. It is going to be so worth it! I dont envy you living that way in the meantime, anyone would have a hard time with that.
Posted by: Christina at May 06, 2008 01:51 PM (J6Yo6)
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Let's try BRAD!
Brad Brad bo bad
banana fana fo fad
me mi mo mad
BRAAAAAAD!
Holy holy, I love that movie.
Posted by: Ms. Pants at May 06, 2008 02:09 PM (+p4Zf)
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I am very impressed by all this work that you are doing. Just think of how nice it will be when it is done.
Posted by: Jen at May 06, 2008 02:47 PM (FYm8s)
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For me, the best part of that movie...when the Turkey is launched out of the oven.
Everday is one day closer to a beautiful home.
Posted by: Heidi at May 06, 2008 03:45 PM (cR5BU)
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I just love it when you talk house.
When you are anticipating the ending -- getting there is a trip of joy.
I enjoy the story and the pics.
J
Posted by: Jim at May 06, 2008 04:25 PM (hDgM5)
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Damn girl! You weren't kidding on Flickr when you talked about your second toe being longer than your first!
What? Come on. You knew you could count on me to comment on the least important part of this post, right?
Posted by: amy t. at May 06, 2008 04:50 PM (3dOTd)
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Progress is awesome.
The roof's the biggest thing, honestly, because it will protect the rest of the house while the work is completed. And from the pics I can already tell that they're doing a solid job.
Looking forward to more updates!
Posted by: B. Durbin at May 06, 2008 05:53 PM (tie24)
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I used to love the Money Pit.
I think I'm going to have to find a copy to remind me.
Posted by: amber at May 06, 2008 06:07 PM (HCbA1)
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I don't know how you do it. You never cease to amaze me. You look after infants; you demo, clean, and manage to get in a post. I have a 5 week old infant and I have managed one post since he has been born. I consider myself accomplished if I get a shower in and out of the house a few times a week. Kudos to you.
Posted by: Sk at May 06, 2008 07:04 PM (Hpefv)
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I love Tom Hanks with a unhealthy passion. He's lucky I'm lazy or I'd be one of those stalkers you read about in Page Six or on CourtTV.
As for you? I love your cute lil' toes and I want you two to come spend a couplea weeks with us and our 213 year-old house. Please? I'll buy wine. Lots and lots of wine.
Heh.
Posted by: Margi at May 06, 2008 09:18 PM (jAhxp)
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It'll be worth it in the end!!
Until then, a little more Tom (in the classic carpet scene):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8hMCxmxL-Xs
Posted by: Lori at May 06, 2008 10:36 PM (MY7JG)
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Re. dust snot... I hear that sinus rinse, which is a lovely (if really disgusting) thing anyway, is great for dust-removal.
Posted by: Sarah at May 07, 2008 02:32 AM (gZ16B)
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We've been renovating for five years - can only do bits as we save. We lived without a hall ceiling for 4 years. No bathroom for 6 months. No kitchen for almost a year. I watch that film at least 3 times a year for moral support. I SO get your recent posts!!
Posted by: Flikka at May 07, 2008 06:06 AM (o19Kc)
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Looks like a lot of great progress!
I do love that movie--and was so glad you included a clip from the movie in your post. The part where the bathtub falls through the floor--and tom hanks' laughter is one of the best mood-lifters around!
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May 02, 2008
Seven
Late last night
April and
Patrick met their
gorgeous son. I've known April for a while now, and am very happy for her and her family. She's been so ready for so long now, and I know that feeling of "Please take this child out of me, I'll even whiz by KFC to get you a spork to take it out with!" that she's had.
It's a strange feeling - I've thought a lot about her in the past 36 hours, thoughts of a mixture of hope, understanding, smiles, and - believe it or not - envy. I'm actually slightly envious. She's at the beginning of it all now, and when I look back on my own beginning on the 3rd of October 2007 I see so many things I would do differently. I spent most of that afternoon and evening passing in and out, unable to confidently hold the babies. I don't remember that much of the delivery. It seemed to have taken 5 minutes, when I know it was over an hour.
I remember some bits so clearly, and others are a haze. It's a haze, and it was so important. I wish I could remember better, remember more. I wish I could lock up every memory and hold it inside of me, to warm me on the colder nights.
There are so many things I would do differently, and so many moments that I would lock inside of my mind. I can never go back again and I know that, but the majority of my early days with my children reign high in beautiful moments for me. I guess it's true - I've become one of those who sit here and write about her preshus babeez. And my babies, they are precious. They're also little hellions on occasion, so don't get me wrong, my kids aren't preparing for sainthood.
Nick and Nora turn 7 months old tomorrow. 7 months. It seems like yesterday, and it seems like 7 years ago. I am enjoying them more and more as time passes. They're brilliant fun and have real personalities now, and even better they light up now when they see me. At almost 7 months old we're still way behind - size-wise we're now in size 6 months, and the babies cannot roll over and cannot sit up unaided. I don't worry about it all that much, they'll do it when they're ready, and at least my babies have truly been babies longer than most.
I read that at some point their little bodies will no longer mold against mine, will no longer curl into my shape. Sometime soon they'll be independent, they won't need me. I think of moms with their new bundles of warmth and I worry that the day is coming sooner than I can handle it, that day of independence.
So I guess what I'm looking for is reassurance that kids need cuddles well into childhood, that they need me and will light up when they see me for a while to come. These are the only children I will ever have and this is the only time they will be one day shy of 6 months old. I can handle them growing up, but growing away hurts a lot. If I can just know that it doesn't all end tomorrow or on that day their bodies no longer mold to mine when we sit, I think I'll feel that much better.
-H.
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That yearning for independence came way too soon for me. I can't even hold my 10 month old until she is extremely tired. It's the only time during the day that she'll sit still and snuggle with me. I'm so sad!!
Posted by: Dotty at May 02, 2008 06:08 PM (Njk30)
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If it's any comfort, I still need my father. 27 years old, and I love when he hugs me and whispers that he loves me before letting go.
Posted by: Angela at May 02, 2008 06:16 PM (DGWM7)
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At 3 (almost 4--they'll be 4 in July), we still have at least two double cuddles a day (where we all pile into the rocking chair and cuddle of 10+ minutes while we quietly talk or just rock silently). They also will sit down in my lap while they're playing or just come by and give me a hug and kiss. It's not like it was when they were really little and soft and cuddly, but it is still so good. Especially when I'm holding both of them at the same time.
Posted by: Mel at May 02, 2008 06:18 PM (TfUkt)
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They will still need you. My daughter is 9, and loves nothing more than to cuddle up when we are watching tv.
Posted by: Andria at May 02, 2008 06:42 PM (Oo4k1)
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My son is four and he's always asking for huggies and kisses and climbing all over me. It's funny because I'm not an affectionate person by nature - I don't remember being that way with my parents - but of course, I don't discourage this cuddliness at all. I love it! I'm very lucky. Some kids just aren't cuddly.
Posted by: paula at May 02, 2008 06:45 PM (jh9Oj)
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Girl, I am 43 and I still need you, every day! You are so sweet it makes my heart squeeze, you are the best mom those little tykes could have and I am sure they will adore you till the day you die and then some.
Posted by: Cheryl at May 02, 2008 06:53 PM (082BT)
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I rarley comment here, I am a lurker!! But your post moved me to write to you! I have two big-ish kids, a 5 year old girl and a 7 year old boy. And they like nothing better than to cuddle up to mom and dad at the end of the day! True, they are busier than when they were young, now they have school work, sports, friends... but I know they need to have that close snuggling time! The years go by fast, but your kids will ALWAYS be your babies. I look in at my beautiful children EVERY night after they fall asleep to make sure they are covered, make sure they are okay, or just to watch them sleep for a bit. They are even MORE beautiful to me than when they were young. I have all those memories in me and that adds to the love I feel for them. You think you can't love your children more than when they are tiny babies, but that is just the beginning of it. I fall in love with them more each day with the little things they say or do. And their bodies still mold to mine, we just take up more room on the sofa now! ;-)
Posted by: Bonnie at May 02, 2008 06:53 PM (ri1ak)
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They'll always need you.
*hugs*
Posted by: Amanda at May 02, 2008 07:21 PM (ay+rD)
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It's sad to see babyhood slipping away. But one of my favorite things is when Bridget comes up to me and holds up her arms and says "Up Mommy!" She still wants me to hold her and if she wakes up in the middle of the night, it's me she wants.
They won't always be this tiny but they'll always need a hug from their mother.
Posted by: donna at May 02, 2008 07:32 PM (Yg10E)
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They will always need you-just in different ways at different times.
I am thinking maybe you are a little bit like me. Although my relationship with my mom is a little less complex then yours with your mom, I still have some major issues I have to/have had to deal with. You and I don't really 'need' our mom's-haven't for a long time, so it makes it hard to envision children, even our own, needing us beyond the basics of feeding and clothing. But we are different and more importantly better then our moms-and our kids will know they can always trust us without ever having to think about it. Because trust is what I think it all boils down to.
Posted by: Teresa at May 02, 2008 07:36 PM (ddXOy)
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I can't believe they are 7 months already...seems impossible.
I am loathe to give up the preshus moments, and will hold on to them as long as I can into childhood. I have found that an enormous toddler of 2.5 years still fits into his mother's curves in the pre-dawn dark after a nightmare. Fits differently, but still perfectly.
Posted by: amishpromqueen at May 02, 2008 07:47 PM (OUTBp)
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So true! Growing away. Nathan is already so independent, but in the perfect way. When he is sleepy or ready to nurse he goes back to the little infant I remember. 7 months! Yours tomorrow, mine on Tuesday! Another happy birthday.
Posted by: Christina at May 02, 2008 08:04 PM (J6Yo6)
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If it makes you feel better, I'm 21 with an 18 year old sister and an 11 year old sister and my parents and whoever happens to be home (I'm away at college and the 18 year old will be soon too) all pile together onto the couch every evening to snuggle and watch TV. You never stop needing cuddles from your parents.
Posted by: Meredith at May 02, 2008 08:17 PM (jXuSj)
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They may surprise you when they get older. Even when my kids started their pre/early teen years there were times that they still wanted to be close and cuddle up with us. Especially on weekend mornings, when my wife & I would sometimes wake up and find them all over our bed, trying to find which parent had a free arm to draw them close with. Luckily we were pretty good about keeping SOME clothing on at night, to avoid any embarrasing situations.
What I wouldn't give to have those days back. Those were the good days before they got seriously fucked up.
Posted by: diamond dave at May 02, 2008 08:27 PM (xOzxi)
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I don't know all that much about motherhood, but I do know my best friend's daughter is 3 and when they cuddle it always seems that her little body still curls perfectly into her mom's. I also know that I have never (in my 25 years) grown out of "needing" my mom. When I'm sick, sad, or hurt..... she is who I need. They'll never fully grow away. Things will simply just be different. Not good or bad. Just different. Good luck adjusting!
Posted by: Jessica at May 02, 2008 08:40 PM (sm5Ac)
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*sigh* my heart aches reading this. i can relate, word-for-word, to so many of your thoughts in this blog. i can't beleive my little guys is on the cusp of 7 months. where are the breaks on this ride?! how can i possibly freeze him and this fascinating age of discovery, play, personality, and need? i held my friend's 1 year old daughter, and after a quick moment, she pushed away for her independence so she could go play. she's not even my child, and my heart broke a tiny bit.
okay, now i'm seriously tempted to wake caleb up for a snuggle...
Posted by: kellyangelo at May 02, 2008 10:15 PM (x4u1e)
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My son is 3 now and I don't get to 'hold' him like an infant (I have a hard time remembering when he fit just across my chest - he's so big!) but when we sit and watch Curious George he lets me sit right next to him and hug and kiss him. he wants hugs all the time from us. and on rare occasion he lays his head down on my shoulder and it just makes me melt. So the infant days change - but they still want mom.
Posted by: Jennifer at May 02, 2008 10:25 PM (6JvP5)
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You don't stop missing that, even while you still have it. My youngest, now 19 and 6 ft was the most cuddliest of the babies. He remained that way for a long time, preferring to be carried when he could have walked, sitting on our laps to watch a movie. I knew he would be our last so didn't mind lugging a thirty pound toddler around Disney!. Enjoy your babies. The awareness of how fleeting this time is is just a response to your knowledge of how short it really does last. It does come back, when they are tired, sick, or just need their moms, so it never really goes away.
Posted by: Melissia at May 02, 2008 11:07 PM (mJWbf)
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While they do yearn for independence, they also need reassurance from Mom. My 13 year old still sits on my lap. I bought a king sized bed so that the 12 year olds and 13 year old can all come cuddle me at the same time. I haven't hit the point, yet, where they don't want hugs, loves and kisses from me anymore.
Posted by: malenkka at May 02, 2008 11:47 PM (97wlj)
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P has recently taken to putting her arms around my neck completely and pulling me close to her. Sometimes it makes me tear up, it feels that wonderful.
Posted by: MsPrufrock at May 03, 2008 12:15 AM (1NDGw)
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The Mini still reaches out for me when he cries at night. And he prefers to rest his head on my shoulder when he's upset and spread his arms out around me, as far as they'll go. I to take advantage of that as much as I can.
Posted by: statia at May 03, 2008 03:26 AM (5IjqH)
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Baby snuggles are fantastic . . . but there is something equally fantastic about your toddler coming up and VOLUNTARILY snuggling in next to you. And saying, "Mommy" for the first time, which I just experienced this week.
It just gets better from here, no worries, dear Helen. Nope, you can't go back and make them little again, but there is SO much to look forward to as they grow!
Posted by: Heather at May 03, 2008 03:36 AM (kq0uE)
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Helen,
My 16 month old still loves to sit in my lap, lean against my chest and read books, or watch tv. He still loves to climb up in my lap and lay his head on my shoulder. It feels so good.
My 11 and 13 year olds, still like to squish against me on the couch and watch tv, or better yet they love to lay their heads in my lap and have me rub their backs or run my hands through their hair.
The age Nick and Nora are now is the beginning of such a great time. Have fun with it.
Posted by: the mother hen at May 03, 2008 05:25 AM (AvESZ)
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i still like hugs from my mom. they won't necessarily outgrow it.
my little one is just over 5 months. he's still a snuggle bug. i do want it to continue. it has such healing powers for me.
Posted by: becky at May 03, 2008 05:54 AM (l2sRt)
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Wow I can't believe it has been 7 months! How time flies....but they are getting cuter and cuter :-)
Posted by: Lucy at May 03, 2008 08:25 AM (M350D)
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My babies are now 11 and 8 and they still need hugs and snuggles with their mom. Granted, it's not the same as it was when they were little, but it still warms my heart when they come to me at the end of a busy day and want to be snuggle on the couch or get tucked into bed.
Posted by: Trainy at May 03, 2008 10:36 AM (vd8uz)
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My nineteen year old son is 6'6"....he is in the Army...he still wants hugs sometimes from his mom.
Posted by: Mitzi at May 03, 2008 12:20 PM (cB5ML)
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The snuggles are just less frequent that is all. At 5 my boy still curls into me and we snuggle all the time. He "saves room" on the chair or couch for me to sit with him and snuggle while we watch tv. He still wants to share a milkshake or hold my hand at the store. This morning at 6 a.m. while all the boys were preparing to go fishing, he remembered that he neither told me good morning or goodbye. Crying woefully, he ran up the stairs and threw himself into bed with me sobbing. I told him I'd be here when he got back and to catch a big fish for me. He smiled and went on his merry way. He still wants and needs his mama even when he doesn't think he does and it is wonderful!
Posted by: oddybobo at May 03, 2008 01:05 PM (Obmvy)
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My boy (who just turned 2) is very much a cuddler. He loves to wrestle and tackle his dad, but if he gets hurt, he wants me. This morning we turned on The Backyardigans and he sat on his dad's lap, then noticed me sitting up on the couch and said "I want Mommy!" and proceeded to climb up on my lap.
I don't want this to end and i'm afraid it will eventually, but at 2, he still wants and needs cuddles.
Posted by: Tif at May 03, 2008 09:14 PM (7AIVm)
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I have a 7 and 6 year old. They still cuddle. Yesterday morning the youngest woke up as I was leaving and ask "Can I have a long and hard hug?" I obliged.
Posted by: Amy at May 03, 2008 09:16 PM (2BV6j)
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Yep - my 14-year-old still mashes herself against me any chance she gets. There is NO concept of personal space for me where she's concerned, and I don't mind it much. Except when she's squishing me. I see other moms whose kids "hate them" and won't give them the time of day without an eyeroll and a heavy sigh, and I feel quite lucky.
And, last night I got to cuddle my friend's 3-week-old baby. Sometimes, getting a "baby fix" from somebody else's baby is good enough.
Posted by: Tracy at May 03, 2008 10:22 PM (sGr7w)
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Hey, now. They only get better, these baby things. Trust me. I can only speak to boy-type babies because I never raised a girly-type child but --
It took Babylove until he was almost two to learn my "name." He had "Daddy, Dah-ee, Da da" down pat very early on. I can only assume that it was my ubiquitous presence that kept him from learning "Mama" - becuase hell, I was never far enough away for him to have to call out for me.
They will go through the time where they're "too cool" for kisses and hugs -- but that's a long way off. And around the time they're 17 or so you'll not WANT to kiss them becuase they're so full of shit (thinking they know everything and GAWD, MUD-THER, YOU'RE SO STUPID.) so there's that.
But truthfully? And between us - when my cell rings and it's my 20 year old calling from college - and he says to me "Hi, Mommy," (because he still does call me that) I get all misty.
As I tell my boys: you'll be my babies until your 80 - and beyond.
xoxo
Posted by: Margi at May 03, 2008 10:24 PM (jAhxp)
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So what I MEANT to say is:
Wait until you hear your first "Mama!"
or when the babies learn to wrap their little chubby arms around your neck and kiss you back.
(Babylove does "MWAH" and it just totally gets me right there, you know?)
Posted by: Margi at May 03, 2008 10:26 PM (jAhxp)
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You still have time. Just keep cherishing it.
Posted by: Waiting Amy at May 03, 2008 11:41 PM (ecQ9f)
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Hearing Amy say "aluboo mummy", more clearly now "I uve you mummy" and come rushing over to plant a big sloppy kiss on my lips, makes the growing up thing alright, even if its just for a brief moment!
Posted by: Super Sarah at May 04, 2008 10:01 AM (d7dEB)
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Both of my boys 11 and 5 need hugs,cuddles on a daily basis!
Posted by: steff at May 04, 2008 03:57 PM (xYc0a)
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I have a 14 yr old daughter who (like someone else said) has no concept of mom having any personal space. My 3 yr old son who is rowdy and rough 99% of the time still has to sit on or next to me any chance he gets. What's even better is I now get declarations like " I wub you mom you are the best mom and I will neber leabe you"
Posted by: Fawn at May 05, 2008 02:51 AM (4VYNU)
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My daughter is 17, nearly 18 and will come and sit next to me on the sofa and snuggle. She still wants cuddles from her mom so I wouldn't worry overly much - you have years to go until Nick at least says " aw mom don't kiss me in front of the guys" lol.
Posted by: lostdawill at May 05, 2008 09:21 AM (nTIlC)
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My girlies are 10 and 13 and they still like to snuggle.
Posted by: ~Easy at May 05, 2008 11:31 AM (XD24A)
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So I guess what I'm looking for is reassurance that kids need cuddles well into childhood, that they need me and will light up when they see me for a while to come.
Helen, my children are 5 and 3 and they ALWAYS come running to wrap their arms around me when I get home from pretty much anywhere. Last week, they each had activities in their classrooms at the same time. The two of them actually fought over the right to have me go to their parties. We ended up splitting me a la Solomon; I spent the early time with my son and the later time with my daughter.
I miss, a bit, the days when I could hold my children in the crook of my arm, but I wouldn't change today for anything. Watching my children's faces light up when they see me makes all of the ills of the world simply vanish for a while. So don't fret: you have joy beyond your imagining still to come.
Posted by: physics geek at May 05, 2008 01:58 PM (MT22W)
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I'm going with the notion that it never completely goes away. I still have days when I'd like nothing more than to curl up in my mother's lap. Of course it's not really possible any more - but it comforts me to know that I still have those feelings - it means that maybe my babies will always feel that way about me.
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May 01, 2008
Childhood Literature
Recently I've begun packing up the nursery, getting it ready to be moved. The first things to be moved were the babies' books, which now rest in the study. With huge, huge thanks to people who sent us books, my folks, an ebay compulsion, and
The Book People (I think their books fall off the back of trucks which my morals are flexibile enough to be ok with), the babies' reading material has been really beefed up.
The books are currently not arranged or alphabetized. Do you have any idea how twitchy that makes me?
Anyway, both Nick and Nora like to be read to. They like book after book after book, although their threshold for books has no leeway - they're on your lap being read to, they're happy, they're happy, they're happy, STOP READING IMMEDIATELY. My children - already masters of what they tolerate and don't tolerate.
The thing you don't realize about children's books until you start reading them - this because your memories of your childhood books are wonderful treasured things coated with sticky strawberry jam and Pixie Stix dust - is just how fucked up some of these books really are.
No really.
Occasionally I'll be reading one of these and thinking: What the hell is this all about? And what profound psychological impacts will this have on the kids? To which the babies rubbish me and say "Seriously, Mom, you're way overthinking again. Now turn the page before I get screamy."
I'll give you some examples.
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Aliens Love Underpants.
I love aliens. I love underpants. It stands to reason that this book would be right up my alley, so I bought this one. It has cheerful, bright illustrations. The aliens are all friends. The aliens are all happy.
The aliens also come to Earth and steal our foundation garments. The bad news is grandmas are apparently stuck back in the 1920's, and their bloomers are considered big fun for those aliens with slightly transvestite preferences. The other bad news is apparently "Mummies wear pink frilly things", so I need to hide my period-time granny panties from the babies as they grow up, so as not to disabuse them of the notion that mummies spend their time prancing around in peachy underthings.
The aliens take our knickers off the washing line and prance around in them at night before hanging them back up on the line in the morning. Let's hope they don't leave skidmarks.
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Dogs Don't Wear Sneakers.
Maybe they don't, but fish sure as shit are cannibals.
Those would be fish enjoying a little lox on their bagels while wearing the very same fishing hats they wore while reeling in their Cousin Bob.
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In the Night Kitchen.
This one - sent by the lovely Aunties CTG and ZTZCheese, is a classic. Seriously. Sendak need not bow to anyone. But I do have a hard time reading this page and keeping a straight face:
It must be because I can't get past the milk jug on the kid's head.
Yeah, that's it.
I hope Nick doesn't get a complex from looking at this page and sizing up his own milk jug.
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Varmints.
Varmints is an amazing book. The illustrations are stunning, the message incredible, and I want absolutely every book that this author and the illustrator collaborate on. But I do wonder a bit if this book is aimed more for adults than kids.
Those two pages read: "It touched and warmed the hearts of those few who paused and cared to listen..../Then one day OTHERS came, and the sound of bees was lost."
The OTHERS? Ben, is that you?
Then you come to these pages:
Those white dots on the left hand page? Those would be the creepy faces of the OTHERS. I can see this is one book the babies may read when they're older, lest I have to bunk down on the floor with them and assure them that the OTHERS are not, in actuality, under the bed waiting for the babeis to fall asleep so they can steal their souls and trade them for some red crayolas.
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Love You Forever.
A classic. Absolute classic. A beautiful, tear-inducing book that makes me choke up every damn time I read it. I love it, it's a book about a mother who says the same poem again and again to her son as he grows up (and naturally I've plagiarized the poem and say it to my son).
What I don't love is this:
The mother takes a bus across town, lets herself into her adult son's house, and whispers the poem into his ear before leaving again.
What. The. Fuck.
"Hey, kids! We love having you, and when you grow up someday we'll stalk you to constantly remind you of how much we love you! Better not bring home the ladies and try for some action, m'kay? Wouldn't want to blow your dear old mom's ticker out, would we?"
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Finally, there's this one:
My folks brought it over as part of a lot of 75 Dr. Seuss books they won on Craigslist for me. I love all the books, and I especially love that the books are old and well-used, because to me that makes them more special. But I don't love this one. Why? Well, since it was written in 1959 it pretty much takes all the major political incorrect issues, urinates on them, sticks a funny hat on them, and buys them all a pint.
I give you the middle of the book:
Why yes, that does say "There are many Indiands here. One of the Indians looks after the plane." Presumably thie author intended the Indian to take care of the White Man's plane after the Indian was done hunting heap big buffalo and smoking peace pipe with Runs Like the Wind. Perhaps the author felt the need to call him an Indian and dress him up in the latest of Wild West schmaltz to make a point, although what that point is I cannot possibly imagine. I've been around a lot of Native Americans in my archaeology days, but not once were any of them dressed like that. I have however encountered a number of stupid white people who dressed like that in some nonsensical attempt to impersonate a Native American, so maybe the author meant to say "substitute Indian".
My real issue with Ann Can Fly though comes from the part where Ann squeals and hopes other girls can see her and maybe they'll be in an airplane someday, too! Isn't that exciting! People with vaginas are allowed up in the air! Ann can fly even though she's a girl! I mean, you couldn't have a book called Dan Can Fly because Dan is a Man. Man Dan can fly already. Man Dan uses his huge stonking penis to control the throttle, propping up his giant tree trunk man thighs on the dashboard while making jokes about the stock market and reading a map without having to land at a gas station and ask directions. But Ann, well, Ann's a little useless. Ann's just a girl. Flying is hard, Barbie.
If I read this one to the babies I'm going to explain that Ann's stupidity was due to her being dropped on her head as a baby and not due to her having two X chromosomes. Girl's can not only fly, but we'd never bump the plane while parking it.
-H.
PS-Lily, are you here? How do you pronounce that word "pech" that you and Clancy mentioned yesterday? That's my new word.
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Brilliant reviews Helen! You made me snort in my coffee! I love buying books for my niece, although I'm not sure she actually gets them read to her if I'm not doing it.
If you ever need an alternative career, you should take book reviewing!!
Posted by: Suzie at May 01, 2008 10:00 AM (weSjv)
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Hiho Helen,
I'm here..
Pech... You can listen to someone saying it, on beolingus.de (a translation-website). Look for Deutsch>Englisch, and fill in "Pech", then click on "suchen".
Or else:
The "e" is similar to french "pêche"
For the "ch", imagine a sound a kind of hard, hissing "y" like in "young".
If you know how to pronounce the "ch" in "Ich": That's the same...
Enjoy :-)
Lily
Some children's books are nursery crimes. (lame joke, but true)
Posted by: Lily at May 01, 2008 10:21 AM (Y8m4l)
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And "pêche" is written with a circonflexe, not with a c-cedille. But my keyboard seems to have some issues...
Posted by: Lily at May 01, 2008 10:55 AM (qrvLc)
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What? They're letting girls fly planes now? Sheesh!!
Next you'll try to tell me they can be doctors, lawyers, or telecom executives!
Posted by: ~Easy at May 01, 2008 11:37 AM (XD24A)
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The Night Kitchen is like one giant acid trip and I've never even DONE acid. That's probably the most fucked up one I've ever read.
And Love You Forever, your pictures are different, but yes, I would never climb up a ladder to my adult son's bedroom to rock him to sleep. Maybe.
And let's not talk about the one upper father who does everything better than his son in Guess How Much I Love You.
I bought one book for the Mini Skippy Jon Jones and the Big Bones. It's so mental, my ADD brain cannot wrap itself around this story because it's that bad. Seriously.
Posted by: statia at May 01, 2008 12:01 PM (5IjqH)
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Greetings from sunny Florida. I saw your page listed on shape of a mother, and have become a loyal reader. Thank you for sharing all of your interesting stories!
I could not help but to comment since I have been going through the same thoughts with children's books. I also found Love You Forever to be very creepy. Not only is mom holding the grown man creepy, but son cradling his elderly mother gave me the creeps. When my daughter was born I was given the book and just could not keeping it...
Recently I pulled out my "golden books" from the late 70's early 80's to read to my 2 year old and they were a lot like Ann Can Fly. I wonder what people will think of the books being printed these days in 20 years.
Amy
Posted by: Amy at May 01, 2008 12:16 PM (z0hrW)
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I'm showing my young age here, but my mom read me I'll Love You Forever, too. We're both creeped out by it now.
Posted by: Marian at May 01, 2008 01:12 PM (ZD4nv)
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My kids both loved In the Night Kitchen, and recently when I was reading it to my 20 mo. old nephew Veronica says to me "I always liked that story, but it is creepy that he has to be naked-really creepy."
Love You Forever is a touching book, but that mom must be like the mother-in-law from hell. Sneaking into your grown son's room to kiss him and hold him? Uhhhhhh-no.
In my new venture of trying to put a positive spin on things, whenever I would come across a book like Ann Can Fly, I would tell my children things used to be very different, and fortunately we are at least trying (some of us at the very least) to become better as a society. It does offer up a good chance in a postitive way to bring up some serious issues, without being serious or your kids really knowing that they are learning something. Cause I like to be sneaky like that.
Posted by: Teresa at May 01, 2008 01:47 PM (h+RpU)
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Lily got it. Soft 'e' - like the way you would pronounce 'Pez' (but without the 'z') and with a Dr. Evil 'Shh' on the end.
And thanks for the validation Lily! For me, it's just one of those words that comes to mind often, but has no eqivalent so it just gets stuck there.
Posted by: Clancy at May 01, 2008 01:51 PM (X+xFB)
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I've thought about children's books like this for a long time... freaks me out what gets published. I guess I'd look at it as a chance to open discussions with them when they're older, too. Could be interesting to see how they are actually thinking about the stories.
Then again, I am a fan of mysteries and horror, so what do I know about children's books?
Posted by: sue at May 01, 2008 02:13 PM (WbfZD)
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Exactly! I have started cherry picking which nursery rhymes I'll read our little one out of her Mother Goose book, because some of them are just TOO creepy!
Posted by: joy at May 01, 2008 03:02 PM (veojC)
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Not just the books either - Disney has some very un-PC movies we all know and loveÂ…
Do you think today that Cruella DeVille would be allowed to smoke as much as she does in 101? And what exactly would be the full name to Snow White and the 7 little people?
Posted by: Clancy at May 01, 2008 03:12 PM (X+xFB)
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Your book collection has grown! And, omg, you had me rolling with laughter.
Posted by: Andria at May 01, 2008 03:33 PM (Oo4k1)
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Ha! Those are hilarious! You should watch the "future careers" segments that were on the old Mickey Mouse Club show. The first one was "Airline Pilot/Stewardess." The boy flies the airplanes and the girl practices leaning over without sticking her butt into the air.
Posted by: Jen at May 01, 2008 03:48 PM (FYm8s)
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OK, I swear the next time I pee my pants reading your blog, I'm sending the dirty laundry your way.
I don't know which made me laugh harder, Ann Can Fly and the comments about the penis flying the plane (maybe they can try out Tommy Lee of Motley Crue as a pilot), or Cockle-Doodle-Doo. Yeah, kid, some jug you've got there. I tend to forget that Over There people are a little less uptight about such things. I can't wait until you get a copy of Everybody Poops, if you haven't already.
Posted by: diamond dave at May 01, 2008 11:05 PM (xOzxi)
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I love love love Maurice Sendak - even though it appears that he was partaking of the random street drug a time or ten.
But really - the early to mid 70s (when I was a wee lass) are nothing but a bunch of drug-soaked ideas. Imagine the pitch party for The Banana Splits or H.R. Pufnstuf.
But you know, my generation drank real-sugar coke out of glass bottles and skated around on steel wheels. And if we fell down and skinned our knees, mom put Mecurocrome (New! Improved! Extra mercury content!) on it. Oh yeah, and we drank water straight from the hose.
It's a wonder we made it. Heh.
Posted by: Margi at May 01, 2008 11:35 PM (jAhxp)
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OMG! "Love You Forever" is the CREEPIEST book I've ever read and couldn't read it to my daughter without cold chills. The sentiment is fine for the baby but the whole sneaking into his home thing was wrong! Maybe it was a subliminal attempt to teach our children that we're always watching them...
"Stonking" penis!?? LOL!
Posted by: Michelle at May 02, 2008 03:44 AM (MhXdL)
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I'm disturbed that aliens might be prancing about in my kecks while I sleep. I mean, they're
aliens! Yeast infections would be the
least of it! I don't want any martian pussy disease!!
And thusly--carbon footprint be damned. I'm using my goddamn drier.
Posted by: Ms. Pants at May 02, 2008 02:34 PM (+p4Zf)
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I call Love You Forever the Mommy stalking book. Cute when the kid in the book is small, but when he's a man, Mommy needs to LET GO AND GET A LIFE.
Posted by: lori at May 02, 2008 04:29 PM (MY7JG)
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I know you're not busy, you know with twins and the entire house being ripped in half, and getting back to work, and you know, life...
so when you think of it, you might consider making a list of what books the twins have so you don't end up with triplicates. I came across a pile of Dr. Seuss, but given that you have tons I wasn't sure if they would all be doubles.
Bernstein bears where some of my favorites growing up, and the golden book collections.... which reminds me, I wonder what my parents did with all those books...
Posted by: Angela at May 02, 2008 06:24 PM (DGWM7)
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